Orlanda Sentinal - Gun control doesn't protect us, guns do.

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This ran back on October 4th, but I just followed a link to it and saw it now. I don't think this was posted here and it's worth a look.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/columnists/orl-miket0407oct04,0,5876555.column

Gun control doesn't protect us -- guns do

Mike Thomas | COMMENTARY
October 4, 2007

Tiffany Barwick and Michael Ruschak asked the cops to protect them from Barwick's former boyfriend.

She told them he had harassed her, threatened to kill her, bought a gun and sent an image of her riddled with bullet holes.

A Seminole deputy advised her to get a protective court order. We all know how effective they are against the criminally obsessed.

The deputy also would send her complaint to the State Attorney's Office, which is akin to tossing it into the Grand Canyon.

There is a lesson in all this.

The cops can't protect you.

The cops could not protect Erin Belanger and her five friends who were beaten to death by Troy Victorino and his band of thugs in Deltona.

She begged police for help in the days leading up to the assault.

"Can I ask you a question?" she said to a 911 dispatcher. "What can I do?"

Or better yet, what could they do?

Nothing.

I am not knocking the cops, just acknowledging reality. There are a thousand threats in the Big City. Picking out the real ones from the bluster is an impossible task.

Given this reality, given that Central Florida is turning into a bad Mad Max sequel, my liberal belief in gun control is getting wobbly.

I'm not advocating selling machine guns and cop-killer bullets at Wal-Mart. But if somebody faces an immediate threat, I have a hard time understanding why they need to wait three days or longer to buy a handgun for self-protection.

Shouldn't we be allowed to go to a reputable gun store, get a lesson in how to use a specific weapon and buy it after the background check?

The stated reason against this is that some ill-tempered lout will blow a fuse, run off to Guns R Us, buy a Glock and open fire on his spouse, neighbor, boss or co-worker.

One might assume someone this prone to venting with a volley already has a gun, locked and loaded.

A 2000 report in the Journal of the American Medical Association, hardly part of the gun lobby, showed cooling-off periods did not reduce homicide rates or overall suicide rates.

After examining 51 studies on various gun-control laws, including mandatory waiting periods, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concluded in 2003 that there was "insufficient evidence" to say they reduced gun violence.

It seems we pass laws that feel good without a lot of proof they are doing any good.

Maybe I need a good slap from Ted Kennedy, but I almost buy the National Rifle Association argument that the primary target of gun-control laws would be the people who shoot them at ranges, then lovingly oil and ogle them before safely locking them up.

As far as keeping guns away from bad guys, gun-control laws work as well as crack cocaine-control laws. My footnoted reference on this would be our crime blog.

We even have high school kids in Orange County firing guns in the air at high school athletic events.

If there were no guns, I would say allow no guns. But since all the wrong people already have them, and the cops can't do much about it except match their firepower, then it may well be time to arm thyself, citizen.

When Florida liberalized permits for concealed weapons in the 1980s, critics predicted a Wild West bloodbath. It never happened.

Responsible gun owners don't use guns irresponsibly. Go figure.

Until the cops get better at enforcing gun control on those who shouldn't have guns, a better alternative for the rest of us is gun education, gun classes and secure gun storage.

Mike Thomas can be reached at 407-420-5525 or [email protected]. His blog is OrlandoSentinel.com/mikethomas.
 
Someone is finally using the good sense the Almighty has given them.
 
He still needs to learn that any bullet can kill a cop. Maybe I should start marketing a "Thug Killa" bullet?? :D
 
Wow someone actually gets it
But he doesn't completely get it:
"If there were no guns, I would say allow no guns"

If there were no guns in the world then criminals would use knives and clubs.
Is the little 80-year old lady left with no alternative but to defend herself against larger and younger attackers using the same knives and clubs? She would have no chance. The gun is an equalizer.
 
Great article, for the most part. I emailed him:

Dear Mr. Thomas,

I recently came upon your October article entitled Gun Control Doesn't Protect Us, Guns Do.

I agree with the vast majority of what you wrote, and found your article very interesting.

The following excerpt seemed a bit out of place to me, however:

"If there were no guns, I would say allow no guns. But since all the wrong people already have them, and the cops can't do much about it except match their firepower, then it may well be time to arm thyself, citizen."

I disagree for two reasons.

First, even if it were possible to make every gun in existence just disappear, it would be a bad idea. Guns are the great equalizer. A handgun puts a 95 lb would-be rape victim on even footing with her 200 lb assailant. There's a saying in the gun community: "God may have created men, but Samuel Colt made them equal." The handgun is the most effective means of personal defense available today. We all have the right to protect ourselves and our families, right?

Secondly, even if the cops were the only ones to have guns, it would still be a bad situation. Law enforcement officers will be the first to admit that when it comes to violent crime, the police can do little more than document what happened and search for the suspect. They are historians. The chances are that when you need to defend yourself against a violent criminal, you will need to do so Right Now. There's a saying in the gun community for this phenomenon as well: "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

Thank you for your fair and honest article.

Sincerely,

(Colt)
 
^You guys have missed the important part of that statement: IF THERE WERE NO GUNS.

You can't say "A little old lady would still need a gun" because his whole hypothetical is based on NO guns. IE, guns aren't even on the table, because no one has them, criminal or citizen.

His article is excellent.
 
^ And YOU missed the other important part of his statement:

"If there were no guns, I would say allow no guns"

This indicates that in a world without guns, he is making the decision of whether or not to allow them, and would decide against it.

That means our arguments are valid, too, in that we would decide TO allow them.

The article is still pretty good, though.
 
There's no need to argue it, as the sentence is a non-sequitur of sorts. It's like saying "in a world without cars, I wouldn't allow cars." There's no need for any decision either allowing OR disallowing cars, because cars don't exist in this imaginary world. You can't allow or disallow something that doesn't exist, so picking on this reporter is punishing a guy we should be thanking.
 
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