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Out-of-the-box, Who's best?
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Bought a Dan Wesson model 15-2 357 mag (used) shortly after I ETS'd in 1972. That revolver has fired thousands of my hand loads, two seasons of "Iron Critters" and pounded numerous corn crunchers and ground hogs. Have several other DW's in mags and Supermags with no issues.
BFR 454 Casull have had it for 4 years and hundreds of rounds and no issues.
Glocks Many and they all shoot great with never an issue. Thousands of my cast bullets down range and none ever blew up. You just need to fit the bullet to the bore.
Mike in Peru
Bought a Dan Wesson model 15-2 357 mag (used) shortly after I ETS'd in 1972. That revolver has fired thousands of my hand loads, two seasons of "Iron Critters" and pounded numerous corn crunchers and ground hogs. Have several other DW's in mags and Supermags with no issues.
BFR 454 Casull have had it for 4 years and hundreds of rounds and no issues.
Glocks Many and they all shoot great with never an issue. Thousands of my cast bullets down range and none ever blew up. You just need to fit the bullet to the bore.
Mike in Peru
.455_Hunter
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My brothers 1980's Glock 17 was a jammomatic with even 9mm ball ammo.
Bobson
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^ And that's the gun you're comparing all Glocks between now and then against? 
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"Best" is subjective, so there's no answer to the question. I like Glocks, never had a problem with those I owned or those I shot in training. I don't have a reason to look elsewhere for my handgun needs, and will continue to buy Glocks. But none of that can make them "best."
Regarding the OP:
"Best" is subjective, so there's no answer to the question. I like Glocks, never had a problem with those I owned or those I shot in training. I don't have a reason to look elsewhere for my handgun needs, and will continue to buy Glocks. But none of that can make them "best."
bikerdoc
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never owned a Glock but CZ, Rock Island Ruger and Smith all have been impressive.
Taurus 1911 PT in 9 mm needed to go back to replace a slide stop. Since it returned it has been fine.
Taurus 1911 PT in 9 mm needed to go back to replace a slide stop. Since it returned it has been fine.
.455_Hunter
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^ And that's the gun you're comparing all Glocks between now and then against?
Regarding the OP:
"Best" is subjective, so there's no answer to the question. I like Glocks, never had a problem with those I owned or those I shot in training. I don't have a reason to look elsewhere for my handgun needs, and will continue to buy Glocks. But none of that can make them "best."
Nope. Plenty of other technical reasons why I will never be a Glock owner.
Jeepergeo
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I agree, the fit and finish on Kimbers is pretty top shelf.
Browning has been good to me overall, though my most recent BLR has me wondering due to very loose groups...I still need to try more ammo and see if it settles in.
Browning has been good to me overall, though my most recent BLR has me wondering due to very loose groups...I still need to try more ammo and see if it settles in.
Mastrogiacomo
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My Berettas are wonderful but they all needed trigger jobs to lighten the pull. The Glocks, on the other hand, were out of the box ready to go....
Laura
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If I had to choose a handgun right out of the box for dire immediate use, it would be a HK. The only brand I'd buy and carry without testing at the range first.
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When I first brought my 686 home I couldn't resist trying a few "shots" with snapcaps even before cleaning it. To my dismay I was not able to complete the DA trigger pull with my left hand, I felt really stupid for not trying that on one of my "research" range visits... but lo and behold after cleaning it (which left a little Ballistol behind) I was able to do it, no problem. So I am definitely a believer in an initial cleaning.
Candyman87
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Walthers... and by Walther, I don't mean the Walther branded Umarex stuff. Give me a P99, PPS, or PPQ out of the box and I know it will shoot as good, if not better than any Glock with the same level of reliability, and better ergonomics, in my opinion.
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Best is a hard word to measure. In my experience,
HK, Beretta, and SA all put out guns that operate as expected, at acceptable reliability and accuracy levels for my standards, and also have acceptable fit and finish.
I really love S&W and Ruger revolvers, but I've had a few cosmetic issues and QC issues with both companies.
If I'm talking quality shooting experience, and joy of pulling a trigger, S&W wins.
HK, Beretta, and SA all put out guns that operate as expected, at acceptable reliability and accuracy levels for my standards, and also have acceptable fit and finish.
I really love S&W and Ruger revolvers, but I've had a few cosmetic issues and QC issues with both companies.
If I'm talking quality shooting experience, and joy of pulling a trigger, S&W wins.
Tom Fury
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S&W semiautos in .45 'cept I ciould never get 4566 to hit where I wanted it to.
CQB (Custom shop 4563) much better; would make it #1 goto.
J
S&W semiautos in .45 'cept I ciould never get 4566 to hit where I wanted it to.
CQB (Custom shop 4563) much better; would make it #1 goto.
J
Chuck R.
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^^^^^
This IMHO.
I would have added Glock, up until the initial Gen 4 "stuff".
HK just seems to not release a pistol until it's "right". The triggers might not be the best, but they do flat out work when they need to.
Chuck
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"Out-of-the-box, Who's best?" [CANNONMAN]
Baer 1911 UTC. Not my favorite, but the best out-of-box .45 ACP/Super handgun made. If I am in deep, this is the handgun I want.
Baer 1911 UTC. Not my favorite, but the best out-of-box .45 ACP/Super handgun made. If I am in deep, this is the handgun I want.
DMK
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I've had really good luck with almost everything I've purchased new. 4 CZs (CZ-75s and a CZ-40B), 3 Rugers (Vaquero, SP-101 and Single Six), and 2 S&Ws (SD9 & Shield).
Even my Taurus 94 (22LR revolver) was flawless and has beautiful bluing. I was a little disappointed at first with my Taurus 905 (9mm revolver), but that was due to the moon clips being flimsy and having trouble finding ammo that shot to POA. The gun itself has no defects though. It looks good, has a decent trigger and goes bang every time.
All are great guns and I'm very happy with them.
Even my Taurus 94 (22LR revolver) was flawless and has beautiful bluing. I was a little disappointed at first with my Taurus 905 (9mm revolver), but that was due to the moon clips being flimsy and having trouble finding ammo that shot to POA. The gun itself has no defects though. It looks good, has a decent trigger and goes bang every time.
All are great guns and I'm very happy with them.
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ColoradoShooter77
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Smith&Wesson is putting out alot of nice stuff, like the M&P AR's. I like Ruger all the way around too, hard to go wrong there.
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I am picky about triggers, ergonomics, sights, and the only manufacturer I have not had the least bit of interest in modifying the pistols for is Springfield. They're perfect right out of the box.
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The Poster requested replies for the best "out of the box" quality but didn't specify hand gun or long gun; that being said almost everyone expressed interest in various handguns.
When I think best out of the box quality, my first thought is my cooper 22-250AI. Not your run of the mill retail piece but definately top notch.
When I think best out of the box quality, my first thought is my cooper 22-250AI. Not your run of the mill retail piece but definately top notch.
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