P99 or G19?

Which 9mm?

  • Walther P99 AS

    Votes: 51 43.6%

  • Glock 19

    Votes: 66 56.4%
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Hello all,
Here within the next couple of weeks I'm going to get a 9mm. I'm torn between the Glock G19 or a Walther P99. I already have some .45s and .357 mags but no 9mm's. I would be using whatever I get as a multi purpose gun just like I do with what I have. So it will be for carry as well as a range gun. I like the Walther for the interchangable backstraps and all the other wiz bang features of the pistol. I already own a G21 and I'm familiar with the platform and think there is more available for the Glock parts and add on wise. So I'm waffling between the two. What do you all think? Please explain why you chose one or the other. Thanks.
 
I voted for the G19. There's nothing wrong with the Walther. The Glock 19 is IMHO simply the best of all that a glock has to offer. It reliable, easy to maintain, simpler to operate, has a proven "real world" track record, will feed all commercial ammo, it's concealable, suprisingly accurate, can hold 17 rounds w/ a G17 magazine..... the list goes on. Just remeber to keep your finger away from the trigger (especially when unholstering or reholstering the weapon!), because it will go bang. Hope this helps.
 
Get the Glock. I've heard of quite a few problems with the P99. The NJ State Police were going to adopt them as their new sidearm, but after extensive testing they were dropped because of too many malfunctions and breakage.
 
i have both the g19 and the p99 and prefer the walther...but i'm not selling the glock either.

the p99's interchangable backstraps really help the fit. if the g19 doesn't fit, it is fill and gring time. the ambidexterous mag releases beat the glock's button and it is sorta nice having a decocker.

the biggest difference is the faster reset of the p99 and the 2nd strike ability

besides the p99 was good enough for james bond :)
 
Dbl0Kevin said:
... The NJ State Police were going to adopt them as their new sidearm, but after extensive testing they were dropped because of too many malfunctions and breakage ...
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The NJ state police ordered a special version of the pistol AGAINST the recommendation of S&W. Instead of getting the DAO model, they ordered the DA/SA model without a decocker. Thus, in effect, creating a DAO model but with an extremely hair-trigger. Realizinf their error, they then tried various things to make the guns saferto carry. Another problem was that they had special magazines ordered because it seems that in NJ, even the Police are limited to no more than 15 rounds (regular citizens are limited to 10 and police are limited to 15). These specila magaiznes further contributed to the problem.

This was well documented on the S&W forum when it happened and you can read all about it there (assuming the threads haven't been purged) which has threads containing quotes, links and even scans of letters going back and forth. The concensus was the NJ state police created their own mess by requesting something that they were advised against and then when it didn't work out for them, they tried to put the blame on someone else.

I used to be a citizen of that state (prior to moving to FL and eventually moving to PA) so I followed this story pretty closely. If you buy a regular production pistol, you should have considerably less problems than what the NJ state police experienced.
 
G19 or P99

Haven't shot the Walther but will say nice things about the Glock 19.

Was pretty ambivalent about Glocks, being a 1911 or revolver man. But, one day at my favorite gunstore they had a NIB G19 on display. After handling it and deciding it didn't look TOO ugly (yeah, thats a lame criteria for judging a potential CCW piece, but thats just me) I bought it.

Haven't looked back. Accurate, reliable with EVERYTHING, cheap to feed and easy to conceal - even with shorts and a t-shirt here in a Texas summer (although it mainly does service in the winter).

To demonstrate my commitment, I even had a set of Trijicons put on it - which was REAL nice!

By the way, I didn't know a G19 would take G17 mags - I take it the mag sticks out a bit and isn't flush with the heel?
 
Well it looks like the poll is leaning towards the Glock. I was at the local gunshop/range the other day and they had both. I rented them and did a side by side on the range. Neither had any failures and both were quite accurate in my opinion. Being used to the Glock I naturally shot it better though I think that with time on P99 I would do just as well with it. I prefer the factory sights on the Glock better then the 3 dot set up that comes on the Walther but I've seen where I can order the euro style sights for it so that's not a big deal. There were a couple things I didn't really like about P99 like the mag release. Being ambi was nice but it's location was a bit difficult for me. I found it was easier to operate it with the middle finger of my strong hand as opposed to turning the pistol so I could reach it with my thumb.I also didn't care for how the mag base rubbed the heel of my hand though the grip felt good. The decocker was nice and easy to reach with my thumb and the cocked indicator at the rear of the slide was a nice extra. The P99 was the older version with the hump in the trigger guard and the smaller serations on the slide. What was the purpose of that kind of trigger guard anyways?

So, as hard as I try to favor the Walther I keep going back to the Glock. I found nothing at the range the other day that I didn't like about the G19 and it was 50 bucks cheaper. Both are fine self defense handguns but I think I've decided on the Glock. No, maybe I'll get the Walther...gesh...desisions desisions. Maybe I'm thinking about it too much. I know! I'll just go to order one or the other and wait to see what comes out of my mouth when I tell the guy which I want. LOL Thank you all for your input.
 
you can't deny the adaptability of the glock. for that reason alone you should get it. you want a lighter trigger...check. you want a taclight...check. you want nifty sights...check. you want lefthanded, scuba diving holsters...check. :D ad infinitum.

i like the walther also. in fact, if the walther were as modifiable as the glock i'd own one. having said that...i own neither. shot them both. shot better with the walther. if you get the right "batch" you'll never regret it. i like the decock function on the walther...which the glock lacks.

i voted walther.
 
When I bought my P99 I compared it to a simular size Glock. YUCK! on the Glock. It was a cosmetic and feel thing for me. Very happy with my choice.
 
I have no experience with the P99, but I love my G19 and I have a feeling I will never get rid of it.

Besides, I think you are more likely to get a good deal off a G19 than the P99. Back in November I found a second generation G19 with adjustable Mepro night sites (which I heard are around $150 but im not sure), a 3.5# connector, and a Hogue grip, all for $400 plus $10 for shipping.

When I first got it, I didnt like the grip on it so I took it off. I admit that it felt really weird without the grip, but the Hogue makes it feel like a glove.

I have almost 500 rounds through it, most of them JHPs, and not a single problem.

I would definatly go for the G19.
 
Between the Glocks and the P99 that I fired (all in .40S&W) I wound up falling in love with the P99 (though now I am a 1911 guy and do not look back).

Here are my findings:

1. I like the DA/SA of the P99. I felt more comfortable carrying that, decocked with a round in the chamber, than I would with a Glock. Just something about it that is a little unnerving to me.

2. The interchangeable backstraps helped fill out the P99 where I needed it (I have hands that are on the small side of average). I just do not like the way the glock feels in my hand. I bit too square. An addition of slip on hogue grips, on the subcompacts, did help, but not my favorite.

3. I found, in my hands at least, that the good fit of the P99 made recoil much more controllable and follow ups were quick.

4. I really really like the trigger out of the box on the P99. Though the DA trigger pull was long, I found it consistent and that it broke reasonable clean. On SA there was a little bit of creep but once it tightened up, I knew it was going to break and break clean.

I may have just been fortunate in the one that I picked up. It was a used. If memory serves correct of the markings, it was manufactured in 99 and started with the old orange follower magazines.

My only complaint about the P99 is that it just was not as accurate as a Glock. We are talking 1/2-3/4" group differences at 15 yards. Not horrendous, but it does take a bit more practice to put them where you need them. This also may just be a sights issue.
 
The NJ state police ordered a special version of the pistol AGAINST the recommendation of S&W. Instead of getting the DAO model, they ordered the DA/SA model without a decocker. Thus, in effect, creating a DAO model but with an extremely hair-trigger. Realizinf their error, they then tried various things to make the guns saferto carry.
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That's interesting, I hadn't heard that part of the story. Leave it to NJ to do things ass backwards.

Another problem was that they had special magazines ordered because it seems that in NJ, even the Police are limited to no more than 15 rounds (regular citizens are limited to 10 and police are limited to 15).
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This I have a problem with as it is blatantly wrong. First of all the mag limit for regular citizens is 15 not 10, and there is no mag limit for police for any weapon used in the course of your duty. We have 30 round mags for the AR's at my dept. so I can verify that personally.

All in all I hope this is true because I've always liked the P99's and just stayed away from them because of what I heard during that testing period. Maybe they're worth another look.
 
Dbl0Kevin said:
... This I have a problem with as it is blatantly wrong. First of all the mag limit for regular citizens is 15 not 10, and there is no mag limit for police for any weapon used in the course of your duty. We have 30 round mags for the AR's at my dept. so I can verify that personally ...
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You may very well be correct. I was basing my information on the following ... "NJSP management decided that 16 rounds was too much to carry in a mag - troopers should carry 15. So S&W converted the 16 round mags into 15 round mags. Absolutely insane." -- Source.
 
You may very well be correct. I was basing my information on the following ... "NJSP management decided that 16 rounds was too much to carry in a mag - troopers should carry 15. So S&W converted the 16 round mags into 15 round mags. Absolutely insane."
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While not legally required to do so, I can definately see the State Police pulling a stunt like that. After the state AWB was passed the Governor had the AR-15's removed from the barracks of the State Police. If nothing else you can say he's an equal opportunity gun grabber. :banghead:
 
Thank you alduro. That was about my take on the two the other day when I rented both the P99 and G19. I did notice the differance in the polymer used in both. I also had the same experience and feeling about the controls on both pistols. I think I've pretty much decided on the Glock. I just like it better but I haven't removed the P99 from the want list. I'll just go for the G19 first. Thank all of you for your input and votes.
 
Personally? I prefer the ergos and trigger of the P-99, but that's purely subjective. The G19 will be a bunch easier to find sights, parts, spare mags, and holsters for. Both guns work, and work well.
 
I vote Walther P-99

I find it interesting that a lot of posters voted for Glock, even haven't tried P-99. If you are happy with your Glock - it's fine, why trash another fine handgun you know nothing about?
I was looking for Glock many years and shut them a lot, but it was not for ME.
Just recently I bought my second Walther p-99 from CDNN @ $450. Great price, great gun. It happened in 2 weeks as I sold my first.... So my choice is obvious.
For the original poster - try both guns and make your choice. Nobody has the same hands as you do, nobody has the same taste... Good luck
 
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