Shpadoinkel
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In case anyone was wondering how a Knoxx stock goes on one of these things, I just put mine on this weekend and this is how it went:
The Purchase
I found a Remington 870 Knoxx stock for $99.95 at Botach Tactical (http://www.botachtactical.com/knspadst.html). I used a coupon code for 10% off that I found online (‘stimulus’). So after shipping, my total cost for the stock was $103.16.
The Delivery
To my surprise, the stock came packaged with a matching Blackhawk forend. There was no mention of this on the site I ordered it from and I couldn’t even find info on it on the official Blackhawk site, but… I’m not complaining. It also came packaged with a ball-hex allen wrench for installation.
The Installation
Knoxx Stock-
The original stock came off easy enough with a regular screw driver. I removed the metal spacer as instructed. Using the provided ball-hex, installation took… 20 seconds. Just have to make sure you install it square to the receiver and hand tighten as much as you can. Feels very solid.
There was concern that the Pardner receiver stud would be too long for a flush installation of the stock to the receiver and grinding or a new stud may be necessary. This was not the case. There are multiple forum posts out there (on THR as well as others) where Pardner owners had a 1/8 inch to a 1/2 inch gap between the stock and receiver. I’m not sure if this is something that Knoxx fixed on their end or if Pardner recently changed the length of the receiver stud, but I had no problems. The stock fits right to the receiver with no modification needed. Thankfully. In the picture it looks like there is a tiny gap, but that is only down right by the safety. I can't even fit a piece of paper between it, so I don't think it gets tighter than that.
The Forend-
This was my first full disassembly of the Protector (or any shotgun for that matter) so removing the forend was a bit tricky at first. And after a quick YouTube search I found that all I needed to get the forend lug off was a pair of needle-nose pliers. After that was off the original forend grip slid off pretty easy and the new Blackhawk forend slid on just as effortlessly. The wrap-around side (the side that faces the barrel) of this new forend is formed a bit differently than the original, in length there seemed to be about a 1/4 inch less plastic on the new one than the original (sorry, hard to explain and I forgot to take pictures) but after numerous rackings, there are no signs that it is going to slid back and forth that ½ inch, feels very solid.
There are also two holes drilled and threaded on the bottom of the forend, I assume for one of those tactical forend handles?
The Weight
One thing I heard over and over on multiple forums and reviews of the Knoxx stock was how heavy it is. Initially, I agreed. When I got the package it felt oddly heavy to me too. That was until I got the original stock and forend off and held them and I was thinking “Geez, these aren’t too much lighter”. So I decided to weigh them on my scale.
The Results-
Original Stock and Forend = 2.25 lbs (actually, it kept changing between 2.25 and 2.50)
Knoxx Stock and Forend = 2.50 lbs
I think the Knoxx stock is a bit heavier than the Original, but where that overall weight difference is made up is in the forend. The Original forend is quite thick and dense, the Knoxx forend is considerably lighter.
So now the overall weight of my Protector with the Knoxx stock and forend installed is 7.5 lbs.
*Note: this was all done on my home scale that only measures weight in .25 increments.
The Safety
Another thing I found mentioned often is that the Knoxx stock interferes with the safety and might need to be filed down. That’s not the case for me. The safety is free and clear and just as easy to get to as before.
Also, I use a trigger lock and that still works as well. It fits a little lower than before but it still locks up just fine.
The Pictures
Before: http://i26.tinypic.com/zlulaw.jpg
After: http://i32.tinypic.com/nchwmr.jpg
Knoxx Stock: http://i32.tinypic.com/t98huq.jpg
Knoxx Forend: http://i25.tinypic.com/2jfljrk.jpg
Fit (stock to receiver): http://i30.tinypic.com/25aus85.jpg
If you've made it all the way through my ramblings... thanks for your time.
The Purchase
I found a Remington 870 Knoxx stock for $99.95 at Botach Tactical (http://www.botachtactical.com/knspadst.html). I used a coupon code for 10% off that I found online (‘stimulus’). So after shipping, my total cost for the stock was $103.16.
The Delivery
To my surprise, the stock came packaged with a matching Blackhawk forend. There was no mention of this on the site I ordered it from and I couldn’t even find info on it on the official Blackhawk site, but… I’m not complaining. It also came packaged with a ball-hex allen wrench for installation.
The Installation
Knoxx Stock-
The original stock came off easy enough with a regular screw driver. I removed the metal spacer as instructed. Using the provided ball-hex, installation took… 20 seconds. Just have to make sure you install it square to the receiver and hand tighten as much as you can. Feels very solid.
There was concern that the Pardner receiver stud would be too long for a flush installation of the stock to the receiver and grinding or a new stud may be necessary. This was not the case. There are multiple forum posts out there (on THR as well as others) where Pardner owners had a 1/8 inch to a 1/2 inch gap between the stock and receiver. I’m not sure if this is something that Knoxx fixed on their end or if Pardner recently changed the length of the receiver stud, but I had no problems. The stock fits right to the receiver with no modification needed. Thankfully. In the picture it looks like there is a tiny gap, but that is only down right by the safety. I can't even fit a piece of paper between it, so I don't think it gets tighter than that.
The Forend-
This was my first full disassembly of the Protector (or any shotgun for that matter) so removing the forend was a bit tricky at first. And after a quick YouTube search I found that all I needed to get the forend lug off was a pair of needle-nose pliers. After that was off the original forend grip slid off pretty easy and the new Blackhawk forend slid on just as effortlessly. The wrap-around side (the side that faces the barrel) of this new forend is formed a bit differently than the original, in length there seemed to be about a 1/4 inch less plastic on the new one than the original (sorry, hard to explain and I forgot to take pictures) but after numerous rackings, there are no signs that it is going to slid back and forth that ½ inch, feels very solid.
There are also two holes drilled and threaded on the bottom of the forend, I assume for one of those tactical forend handles?
The Weight
One thing I heard over and over on multiple forums and reviews of the Knoxx stock was how heavy it is. Initially, I agreed. When I got the package it felt oddly heavy to me too. That was until I got the original stock and forend off and held them and I was thinking “Geez, these aren’t too much lighter”. So I decided to weigh them on my scale.
The Results-
Original Stock and Forend = 2.25 lbs (actually, it kept changing between 2.25 and 2.50)
Knoxx Stock and Forend = 2.50 lbs
I think the Knoxx stock is a bit heavier than the Original, but where that overall weight difference is made up is in the forend. The Original forend is quite thick and dense, the Knoxx forend is considerably lighter.
So now the overall weight of my Protector with the Knoxx stock and forend installed is 7.5 lbs.
*Note: this was all done on my home scale that only measures weight in .25 increments.
The Safety
Another thing I found mentioned often is that the Knoxx stock interferes with the safety and might need to be filed down. That’s not the case for me. The safety is free and clear and just as easy to get to as before.
Also, I use a trigger lock and that still works as well. It fits a little lower than before but it still locks up just fine.
The Pictures
Before: http://i26.tinypic.com/zlulaw.jpg
After: http://i32.tinypic.com/nchwmr.jpg
Knoxx Stock: http://i32.tinypic.com/t98huq.jpg
Knoxx Forend: http://i25.tinypic.com/2jfljrk.jpg
Fit (stock to receiver): http://i30.tinypic.com/25aus85.jpg
If you've made it all the way through my ramblings... thanks for your time.