Pecar Berlin Rifle scopes

[Sniper66]

I would really appreciate any info you may have regarding these scopes. My brother died last year and these 4 scopes, all sitting atop rifles, are part of the estate. I want to buy them ( and the rifles) from the estate and plan to pay the fair market value. The executor (my niece) will appreciate the help. It has been an ordeal for her and I will not burden her with questions she cannot answer. So, I'm turning to you guys who have always been helpful. Here's the list with all the info my niece provided. I know...it's not nearly enough, but I will work with what I have for now.

2 Pecar Berkub Variables 4-10X serial 86187 and 86993
Pecar Berlin 6X59 Serial 38588 (This is a fixed power 6X)
Pecar Berlin serial 8019192 (No other info provided)

The guns and scopes are in storage 2 hours away from my niece. So making the trip in the midst of her ordeal is not currently advisable. And I live 7 hours away. I'll submit this list again when more info is available. Thanks for your help!

 

[luv2safari]

The post war Pecar Berlin scopes are on par with the Nickel-Supra scopes and are quality but dated optics. They were the German Koehler scopes that were branded by the American importer, Leavall Sumter, begining in 1953. The tubes would be 26mm with the exception of a 3X 22mm tube they made. One Pecar I owned years back had two reticles that could be interchanged, a German #4 and a CH. It was a 4X. That 6X would be their model "American" and would probably have a CH reticle. They were widely used on combination guns, and some were rail mount. Be sure to identify if these are rail mount scopes. If so, it would cost far more than the scopes are worth to mount them on modern guns. The reticles could be classic German #1, 3-post. The variables will probably have First focal plane reticles, not the rear focal plane reticles we Americans embrace. The 4-10 was imported from 1959 trough 1961. The Pecars had a relatively short eye relief of 3.1", which is something that turned me off to them somewhat. The tubes could be either steel or alloy; they made both.

What rifles are they on, and what are the mounting systems? If they are rail mounts on Suhler claw mounts the scopes are "mated" to each particular gun. In any case the Pecars are some of the better early post-war scopes. Be aware that some might have slightly fogged coatings, so inspect them closely.

Without photos I can't tell you much more. I'm anxious to learn about the rifles and think they might be some high quality German Mausers.

 

[Russ57]

"I'm anxious to learn about the rifles and think they might be some high quality German Mausers."

That sounds like a very good possibility.

A good scope from the 1950's isn't that good by today's standards. A good rifle from the same time period could be an exquisite masterpiece.

 

[Sniper66]

Yes, one of the rifles is a high quality Mauser mode 66. Actually two rifles rolled into one. It is an interchangeable model that has two barreled actions that mount in the same stock. The current set up is a 25-06 with a Pecar, but not clear which one. The alternate barreled action is a .308 with a Kahles Helia Superscope.
#2. Pecar is mounted on a Remington 541-S .22. It is the fixed 6X scope.
#3. is mounted on a Ruger#1 .243. It is a 4-10X.
#4. is mounted on a Sako .223, a Vixen I think, also a 4-10X

#2 and #3 were my brother's favorite rifles. He killed 100s of squirrels and all manner of other small game critters with his .22 and dozens of white tail deer with his .243. The Pecars are rock solid, built like tanks and he almost never had to adjust them from season to season. I have no idea about mounting systems. I hope to buy these from the estate. More info to come in the next few weeks/months I hope.