Permits revoked for drunk driving in CT - is that common?

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In NY when purchasing a handgun in my county DWI is a question, but I haven't heard of anyone losing there permit. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened though.
 
In South Dakota, a 3rd offense DUI is a felony charge, which is of course a federal disqualifier. Wouldn't a felony level DUI disqualify someone in any state? I'm Ok with such restrictions. A pattern of behavior that includes one being arrested multiple times for DUI doesn't exactly reassure me the person is responsible enough to carry a gun in public safety. Drinking and driving shows, IMO, a willful disregard for public safety. Someone who shows a disregard for safety inn one area is likely to exhibit a disregard for safety in others/
 
IIRC, in TN one DUI in 5 years, or two within 10 years are disqualifiers to get a permit, so I could see getting one while you have a permit being grounds for it being suspended. I remember when one of the State senators largely responsible for getting our guns in restaurants bill got pulled over for a DUI and had a revolver between his seat and console, there was a question as to whether he'd lose his permit. He was a former cop, and refused the breathilizer, so I'm not sure how it all worked out.
 
Permits revoked for drunk driving in CT - is that common? I would not be surprised. As I understand the laws in my home state of Tennessee, consequences of DUI (Driving Under the Influence) on a handgun carry permit THCP:

o Conviction on DUI: you will not be permitted to obtain a handgun carry permit if you have had one DUI conviction in the past 5 years or two (or more) convictions in the past 10 years.

o Renewal of a handgun carry permit will be denied if you have one DUI conviction since obtaining the permit or renewal.

o It is a separate crime to DUI with a handgun in your possession (with or without a permit). If you are charged with possession of a handgun while DUI the judge is required to take your carry permit if you have one until the case is decided. My understanding is conviction of carrying a handgun while DUI is a more serious permit disqualifier than simple DUI.
 
Seems fairly common, this caught my eye in the Here Comes The Flood Of New Gun Legislation thread
Rhode Island
S2775 would remove the term 'drunkards' from the definition of a prohibited person
H7940 removes the line 'or who has been adjudicated or is under treatment or confinement as an habitual drunkard' from the description of prohibited persons
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Seems if you cannot be trusted with liquor you are not trusted with guns in multiple states.
 
you will find this type of right denial more common in "may issue" states and some "shall issue" states who've usually only recently (10 years or so) come around regarding the right to carry a firearm. felony dui is different though for the obvious reasons.
 
The Oklahoma Self Defense Act on DUI:


The following conditions shall preclude a person from being eligible for a handgun license pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act for a period of time as prescribed in each of the following paragraphs:

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Two or more convictions of public intoxication pursuant to Section 8 of Title 37 of the Oklahoma Statutes, or a similar law of another state. The preclusive period shall be three (3) years from the date of the completion of the last sentence;

7. Two or more misdemeanor convictions relating to intoxication or driving under the influence of an intoxicating substance or alcohol. The preclusive period shall be three (3) years from the date of the completion of the last sentence or shall require a certified statement from a licensed physician stating that the person is not in need of substance abuse treatment;
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www.ok.gov/osbi/documents/SDA_Lawbook_NOV_2012.pdf

See page 3, Title 21, 1290.10 for other disqualifying factors.
 
you will find this type of right denial more common in "may issue" states and some "shall issue" states who've usually only recently (10 years or so) come around regarding the right to carry a firearm. felony dui is different though for the obvious reasons.
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True many politicians in such states want to find any reason to disqualify, but lets not forget how much alcohol is looked down upon in some very deep red states.
 
Not sure, but would not surprise me. My advice? Do not drive drunk. Do not drive buzzed. Buzzed = drunk.
 
Just another way to infringe upon our rights. Not that I have any sympthy for a drunk.
 
While I'm not one to endorse or cheer for any law restricting Constitutional rights, I do see that a DUI can be an indicator of judgement.
 
Just another way to infringe upon our rights. Not that I have any sympthy for a drunk.
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Its only an "infringement" if you happen to drive drunk. If you avoid that, as most people rightfully believe you should, there is no infringement. The only "infringement" comes after committing an act that is counter to the interest of public safety. Drunk driving is 100% preventable, creating only an "infringement" for those who make a decision to disregard not only their own safety, but that of everyone else. A criminal, habitually under the influence of intoxicants, who has shown no regard for public safety isn't the sort of person I necessary want carrying a concealed weapon, personally. Denying a ccw to such a person constitutes an "infringement" in your view?
 
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To me it makes a lot of sense. First of all, as someone posted earlier, drunk driving show very poor judgement. Second, if we are going to prevail over the anti gun lobby, we must be willing to be held to a hiigher standard.
 
The only "infringement" comes after committing an act that is counter to the interest of public safety.
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Bingo!!

No one who drives drunk has the "right" to carry a concealed weapon. An acquaintance went to prison for the third offense of driving drunk and served two years of a 3-5. The idiot got out, drove drunk again, killed a 10 year old girl and got a second degree murder rap.
 
Yes I think it is common.

In Illinois, the State Police will revoke a FOID card on a single conviction of DUI - even though DUI is usually a misdemeanor. In Illinois, 2 DUI convictions preclude someone from getting a CCL, even though a non-aggravated DUI is technically a misdemeanor.

Also if someone is found to be intoxicated while carrying a firearm, not necessarily driving, although it is a 3-strike provision:

(d) A licensee shall not carry a concealed firearm while under the influence of alcohol, other drug or drugs, intoxicating compound or combination of compounds, or any combination thereof, under the standards set forth in subsection (a) of Section 11-501 of the Illinois Vehicle Code.
A licensee in violation of this subsection (d) shall be guilty of a Class A misdemeanor for a first or second violation and a Class 4 felony for a third violation. The Department may suspend a license for up to 6 months for a second violation and shall permanently revoke a license for a third violation.

A DUI can elevate to a felony in Illinois if, for instance you were driving your kids in the car, involved in a crash with injuries, or it is a repeat offense DUI. And the felony conviction will cost a person their CCL and their FOID.
 
In Minnesota there is no revocation for DWI per se, but carrying a firearm in a public place while under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance is a separate misdemeanor, regardless of whether you are driving.

For most circumstances of this you will have your permit revoked and can't reapply for a year. If you blow more than 0.04 and less than 0.1, and are charged under clause 6 for BAC >0.04, <0.1, instead of clause 4 for carrying "under the influence of alcohol," you'll get your permit suspended for 180 days instead. I am guessing clause 6 is more common because the elements of the crime are pretty simple to prove, and it's open and shut.

Subsequent violations, except for repeat >0.04, <0.1 clause violations, are gross misdemeanors.

Even getting one of these may be grounds for the sheriff to reject your next carry application, though there is no state mandate for this in the law, you will probably have an uphill battle to get it back again.
 
The article about CT said the law is working because 210 people were rejected for filing falsely.

"210 people tried to buy rifles and shotguns and were denied when background checks turned up felony convictions, undocumented alien status and domestic violence charges."

How many of them were arrested?
 
My gun club newletter came out and this was in it:

Laws to watch out for
BE AWARE – For all those with their carry permit – If you are arrested for DWI/DUI in Connecticut, your right to carry will be suspended for a period of 5 years, 1st offense
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So, I guess it's a fairly standard thing that happens after a DWI.
 
A criminal, habitually under the influence of intoxicants, who has shown no regard for public safety isn't the sort of person I necessary want carrying a concealed weapon, personally
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There's a big difference between THAT type of person and the person who had a few at an office party or family BBQ ONE time, just as there is a difference between drinking and driving and drunk driving.

And now we have to contend with legal pot use in several states
 
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