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Mercy!While cleaning it after shooting the second or third time out, the barrel spun off on me. ...
Well, ya don't see that every day.
Mercy!While cleaning it after shooting the second or third time out, the barrel spun off on me. ...
No, you dont, and it was my first.Mercy!
Well, ya don't see that every day.
When was that?
The only recessed rims I know of are Magnums and rimfires.
But I am not experienced with the various off brands.
I don't know about references, but I have looked at a few revolvers in my life and do not recall a Colt or S&W .38 Special with rim recesses. Of course it would only take one counterexample to prove they exist.However, search enough, and I found references to S&W 38 Specials, Colts 38 Specials, and allusions to other brands having recessed cylinders.
I don't know about references, but I have looked at a few revolvers in my life and do not recall a Colt or S&W .38 Special with rim recesses. Of course it would only take one counterexample to prove they exist.
I believe all small-frame Dan Wessons have recessed case heads. The large-frames and SuperMags don't.When was that?
The only recessed rims I know of are Magnums and rimfires.
But I am not experienced with the various off brands.
^^^ Me either, other than esthetics. Most of my modern S&Ws are more accurate than my older ones with pinned barrels. Kinda more important to me than esthetics.I don't prefer one or the other.
This X1000Because to me, they are a window looking back at the days of fine machining and pride in manufacturing, I really like pinned & recessed S&W magnum/rimfire revolvers and pinned barrels on .38 Specials.
I don’t know if they are any more accurate or reliable than my non pinned ones, but I still prefer them.
Stay safe.
Bangor Punta owned S&W from the mid 60’s to mid 80’s, they folded in 1984 I think. The end of P&R guns was during the last few years of Bangor Punta’s solvency, so cost cutting measures at S&W certainly make sense.This X1000
To me it represents a finite point when it stopped being about building the best gun regardless of cost and cost cutting to maximize profit.
Yeah, the 25-15 has an old-timey one piece pencil barrel, no pin.Please forgive my bitterness. I am still ticked off at S&W over that one. I did buy a 25-15 since the 60 debacle
I'm guilty of this as well; it's maybe not as fail safe as actually cracking open the cylinder. Mas Ayoob claimed to have had an ND from a revolver, which he felt he'd cleared. We probably shouldn't get sloppy.I prefer non recessed cylinders because its easier to quickly see if it is loaded or not.
Yeah, the 25-15 has an old-timey one piece pencil barrel, no pin.
I am glad my bitterness at the S&W P.C. didn’t affect my attitude towards my 25-15 when I first saw it. Love this .45 Colt revolver.I've had some unpinned barrels out of index; it always bugs me, and I'm not above chucking the barrel in a leather jawed vise, and a hammer handle in the cylinder window. It's worked so far, but they shouldn't be out of index. Aside from pissing me off, it just looks cheap and sloppy.
In the late 60s early 70s, the demand for revolvers was high. The M29-2 was selling for $100 over list price. There was a waiting list to buy one. Quality control was non-existent, very poor.
If an FFL dealer wanted any S&W at all, had to order 3 Rugers first from the distributor, to get 1 S&W.
Later, a distributor was not allowed to sell both brands. I forget if it was a S&W or Ruger thin
Around that time I can remember the owner of the LGS told me he had to order ten Model 10s for every one M29 he wanted.