Pistols with "wings"?
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Sam1911
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It shouldn't be necessary if someone takes 2 minutes to show the right technique, but not everyone has that luxury.
Similar ideas are common on "race" guns where large optics get in the way of gripping the slide.
Similar ideas are common on "race" guns where large optics get in the way of gripping the slide.
thegunpunch
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Silly
1. It's a Taurus
2. Prevents shooters from properly learning how to manipulate the slide
3. Still a Taurus
1. It's a Taurus
2. Prevents shooters from properly learning how to manipulate the slide
3. Still a Taurus
BemidjiDweller
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I am more concerned with the apparent lack of a front sight.
I see it now, it's a tiny little one like on a LCP.
I see it now, it's a tiny little one like on a LCP.
I agree, however...Sam1911 said:
If one were an action pistol shooter, competing in Production/SSP division,...and this was a more appropriate pistol for that...the wings would offer a significant advantage on stages that start from a "table"
While I'm sure it was unintended, the wings wold make it much easier, less fumbling, to pick up the gun off a table
Lord Teapot
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looks to me like a crutch that will prevent someone from getting their grip into proper shape to manipulate a slide. being a taurus product, i'd be surprised if the wings were durable beyond a few hundred 'action cycles'.
Walt Sherrill
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Those "wings" look as though they're intended to be flipped DOWN (flat against the slide) when they're not used. That makes sense -- but how MUCH sense remains to be seen.
My wife wants to shoot, but has a hard time with slides on most guns. This would probably work for her (but the small gun itself might be a recoil-bear for her.) And yes, we've worked on all of the various suggested techniques for making slide management easier -- and depending on the gun and the strength of the recoil spring, some just don't work... (She can rack my CZ P-07 with some effort and the PMR-30 (which I got for her)... we're working on others.
My wife wants to shoot, but has a hard time with slides on most guns. This would probably work for her (but the small gun itself might be a recoil-bear for her.) And yes, we've worked on all of the various suggested techniques for making slide management easier -- and depending on the gun and the strength of the recoil spring, some just don't work... (She can rack my CZ P-07 with some effort and the PMR-30 (which I got for her)... we're working on others.
gamestalker
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Something like this would certainly help my wife. She has never been able to manipulate slides on any pistol, much less the smaller frame models.
GS
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If I had to guess, I'd think they would snap into the sides of the slide as the slide went into battery
DeepSouth
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My first thought was simply, Why?
But, if their is a market for it then it must worth building........I guess.
But, if their is a market for it then it must worth building........I guess.
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NWcityguy2
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Some of those little guns have quite a stiff slide, much more so than a full sized pistol.
I can shoot a Taurus better than most people can shoot any gun, so I'm not seeing how brand bashing has a place here.
I can shoot a Taurus better than most people can shoot any gun, so I'm not seeing how brand bashing has a place here.
mgmorden
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For the most part they're unnecessary I'd think, but one some of the smaller guns those slides can be aggravating.
Never tried the TCP but I picked up a Taurus 709 in a gun shop and when I went to lock the slide back I couldn't pull the slide back all the way at first. I've never had trouble hand cycling a slide before that that little gun was sprung VERY heavy. I had to reposition my grip to do it.
Never tried the TCP but I picked up a Taurus 709 in a gun shop and when I went to lock the slide back I couldn't pull the slide back all the way at first. I've never had trouble hand cycling a slide before that that little gun was sprung VERY heavy. I had to reposition my grip to do it.
ny32182
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As mentioned this kind of thing is common; almost required on Open division race guns, but on a carry gun I would question the utility. How/how fast do you get them deployed and then tucked back in? Obviously they'd have to stay folded to fit in a carry holster.
After shooting a Production gun with nice deep slide cuts fore and aft (important ones being on the front), I find that ALMOST all common pistols don't have enough slide cuts for my liking now. They really help with grip.
After shooting a Production gun with nice deep slide cuts fore and aft (important ones being on the front), I find that ALMOST all common pistols don't have enough slide cuts for my liking now. They really help with grip.
Uh ... interesting. Hope the retaining pin or springs are strong enough to last ... would be kinda embarrassing in the range to have your pistol flapping away while your shooting.
Take...these broken wings, and learn to shoot again, learn to overhand rack
My very limited experience with female shooters is, if they aren't strong enough to rack the slide, it's probably not a caliber they're comfortable shooting anyway.
My daughter can't rack a .45ACP slide. She also doesn't like shooting them anyway.
My daughter can't rack a .45ACP slide. She also doesn't like shooting them anyway.
I have 3 petite daughters, who cannot rack the slide on my Commander.
They all shoot it well, and like it.
Eh, they grew up in a gun house, heck they even shoot full house .44 mags (don't like it but get mad when they miss the bull- try to shoot until they do and then quit- pop's 9.5" SRH is heavy enough it aint that bad....more of a dislike of blast).
They all shoot it well, and like it.
Eh, they grew up in a gun house, heck they even shoot full house .44 mags (don't like it but get mad when they miss the bull- try to shoot until they do and then quit- pop's 9.5" SRH is heavy enough it aint that bad....more of a dislike of blast).
Dave Markowitz
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IMO it's an interesting idea and has merit for those with weak grips. If they are durable and don't get in the way, I see no downsides.
The raised grip ridges on the back of an H&K VP-9's slide serve the same purpose, and struck me as a very good idea.
The raised grip ridges on the back of an H&K VP-9's slide serve the same purpose, and struck me as a very good idea.
herrwalther
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I guess the first pistol I ever saw with "wings" stock from the factory was the HK VP9. Looks like Taurus is trying to cash in on that idea.
Grip technique aside, many small guns have terrible slide serrations for manipulating the slide. They are either barely functional or overdone for the size. When my wife's carry was a P3AT, the slide serrations took a good sized chunk out of my finger when I tried to slingshot manipulate the slide. That was one of the many reasons we got rid of that firearm.
Personally I think wings are a terrible idea on a firearm. They can move or break away or snag. Can do almost the exact same purpose with 50 cents worth of grip tape.
Grip technique aside, many small guns have terrible slide serrations for manipulating the slide. They are either barely functional or overdone for the size. When my wife's carry was a P3AT, the slide serrations took a good sized chunk out of my finger when I tried to slingshot manipulate the slide. That was one of the many reasons we got rid of that firearm.
Personally I think wings are a terrible idea on a firearm. They can move or break away or snag. Can do almost the exact same purpose with 50 cents worth of grip tape.
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