A new discussion thread on plated bullets was created and we are requesting information from manufacturers - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=808446
Would appreciate if you could provide as much of the following information to update the information posted on the thread:
- Plating thickness of regular/thick plated bullets
- Rated velocities
- Sizing of bullets
- Bullet core alloy type and hardness in BHN
Keep in mind that this thread is not about jacketed vs plated instead testing for differences among plated bullets.
I do however have a feeling we may end up starting a jacketed vs plated thread.
I could compile the results in sortable table file format.Jesse Heywood said:We could use someone to put the results in a tabular webpage that can be sorted.
And updated the OP information - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=808446From: Lisa Mcgee (X-Treme Bullets) <[email protected]>
To: John John <*******@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 3:05 PM
Subject: [Freedom Munitions] Re: Xtreme
Dear John:
The article in the link below will provide you with information regarding the difference between plated, jacketed and hard cast bullets.
http://www.ammoguru.com/what-are-plated-bullets/
Our copper plated bullets are 8 to 10 thousands. HP's and HPCB are 8 To 10. Please fill free to call if you need any further assistance.
Thanks for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Lisa Mcgee
The Freedom Munitions Team
Howell Munitions & Technology, Inc. | Freedom Munitions | X-Treme Bullets
Phone: (208)746-3668
www.FreedomMunitions.com
www.XtremeBullets.com
www.AmmoGuru.comFrom: John John <*******@yahoo.com>
To: X-Treme Bullets <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Freedom Munitions] Re: Xtreme
Thank you Lisa.
Do you know the plating thickness of regular (non-HP/HPCB) bullets?
John
From: Lisa Mcgee (X-Treme Bullets) <[email protected]>
To: John John <*******@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 3:05 PM
Subject: [Freedom Munitions] Re: Xtreme
Dear John:
Our copper plated bullets are 8 to 10 thousands. HP's and HPCB are 8 To 10.
Lisa Mcgee
The Freedom Munitions Team
Howell Munitions & Technology, Inc. | Freedom Munitions | X-Treme Bullets
Phone: (208)746-3668
From: John John <*******@yahoo.com>
To: X-Treme Bullets <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Freedom Munitions] Re: Xtreme
Thank you Lisa.
Do you know the plating thickness of regular (non-HP/HPCB) bullets?
John
From: Lisa Mcgee (X-Treme Bullets) <[email protected]>
To: John John <*******@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:16 AM
Subject: [Freedom Munitions] Re: Xtreme
Good morning John
Yes. The copper is 8 to 10 Thousands thick.
I hope this helps
Have a great day
Lisa
From: John John <*******@yahoo.com>
To: X-Treme Bullets <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Freedom Munitions] Re: Xtreme
Hi Lisa,
Thank you for the information. So it is my understanding that both your regular and HP/HPCB bullets have .008"-.010" copper plating.
However, your Bullet/Load Info page states the following - http://www.xtremebullets.com/Bullet-Load-Info-s/1952.htm
"Our Copper Plated Bullets can be run at mid-range jacketed velocities or higher end lead velocities. We recommend keeping velocities to less than 1500 FPS (Feet Per Second)
Any velocities over 1200 FPS we recommend either our Heavy Plate Concave Base or Hollow Point products for superior accuracy. We recommend keeping velocities to less than 1500 FPS (Feet Per Second)"
So are you saying all of your bullets are rated to 1500 fps but you recommend HP/HPCB bullets for loads above 1200 fps?
Thank you.
John
And updated the OP information (PM sent to Walkalong) - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=808446From: Lisa Mcgee (X-Treme Bullets) <[email protected]>
To: John John <*******@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 3:42 PM
Subject: [Freedom Munitions] Re: Xtreme
Hi John,
No. The HPCB and HP's are 8-10. So sorry about that. The regular Bullets are 6-8 thousands.
Lisa Mcgee
The Freedom Munitions Team
Howell Munitions & Technology, Inc. | Freedom Munitions | X-Treme Bullets
Phone: (208)746-3668
Speer Gold Dot: Around .018" - http://www.speer-ammo.com/products/gold_dot_const.aspx
Speer Total Metal Jacket (TMJ - Trademark) : Around .015" - http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/handgun/plinker/tmj.aspx
Rocky Mountain Reloading Hardcore Match: .012" - .014" (rated to 1500 fps, 11-12 BHN) - https://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets...15-gr-rmr-hardcore-match-round-nose-plated-2/
Berry's MFG Thick Plate (TP): .006" - .012" (rated to 1500 fps) - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9589491#post9589491
PowerBond/Accura Outdoors: .010" - .011" (rated to 1300 fps) - https://accuraoutdoors.com/product-category/bullets/
X-Treme Heavy Plate Concave Base/Hollow Point (HPCB/HP): .008" - .010" (rated to 1500 fps, lead wire) - http://www.xtremebullets.com/Bullet-Load-Info-s/1952.htm
Rocky Mountain Reloading Regular: .008" - .010" (no velocity rating yet) - https://rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets...9mm-124-gr-rmr-round-nose-plated-bullets-new/
Berry's MFG Regular: .0035" - .008" (rated to 1250 fps) - https://www.berrysmfg.com/faq#FAQ6
X-Treme Regular: .006" - .008" (rated to 1200 fps, lead wire) - http://www.xtremebullets.com/Bullet-Load-Info-s/1952.htm
Hunting Shack Munitions: Around .005" (no fps rating) - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/26...ameter-124-grain-plated-round-nose-box-of-500
Rainier Ballistics: Around .004" (rated to 1500 fps?) - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...-9mm-355-diameter-115-grain-plated-round-nose
Frontier Complete Metal Jacket (CMJ): Can't find plating thickness or fps rating - http://www.frontierbullets.co.za/pro...acket-bullets/
Fortunately, we have a few shadowgraphs here at work. Unfortunately, it is the manufacture of medical devices so would definitely lose my job if I stuck these on the shadowgraph! Plus, I reckon I would be on the 10 o'clock BBC news....It would be interesting to do a physical sampling of plating thickness along the profile of the entire bullet. If any member has access to an optical comparator (shadowgraph) in their metrology or QC lab, perhaps they might be interested in a side project? A sample bullet, sliced at the centerline from nose to base, then polished, would yield a nice specimen for examination and measurement.
A very time and labor intensive process however! Plus, we don't want to put anyone's job in jeopardy.
No. The HPCB and HP's are 8-10. So sorry about that. The regular Bullets are 6-8 thousands.
While waiting for ordered bullets to arrive (believe me, wife has plenty of honey do's), I did a sample spreadsheet shown below which has been sorted by column "B".bds said:I could compile the results in sortable table file format.Jesse Heywood said:We could use someone to put the results in a tabular webpage that can be sorted.