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Jury Instructions: "Better a hundred guilty go free than one innocent be convicted."

Recall that lawyers routinely try to sway juries by saying that they should always give the accused the benefit of doubt. We've all heard lawyers say, "Better that a hundred guilty people go free than one innocent person be wrongfully convicted." Whyso then does this same principle not apply in cases of self defense? Should not an occasional gang-banger go free so the rights of the people at large can be protected?

Just saying...

- - - Yoda
 
I question Judge Terry Lewis' ability to interpret Florida law. This is a plian and simple concept. If the ones (known gangbangers or not) who claimed self-defense were not engaged in crinimal activity at the time they returned fire, then the case falls under the "Stand Your Ground" law. Now, if the gangbangers claiming self-defense were slinging crack on the streets, or breaking into someone's home or vehicle at the time, then it does not.

Everyday old folks give up driving when they are no longer reasonably capable of doing so. In the same vein, Judge Lewis should resign if he is unable to properly and judiciously interpret Florida law.
 
It sounds to me like the judge did not like the law, and he applied it inappropriately in order to bolster support for his opinion. There should be a mistrial and the judge should be fired. 77 no, 54 yes now.
 
Okay as a Florida native I read the comments on article and was most displeased. It seemed a lot of foreigners were commenting on the matter.

I love 'Stand Your Ground' I just thought we called it Castle Doctrine, maybe some anti cry baby made it up.

So some gangs decided to fight it out in the street and one of them got killed....Help me see the negative in that. Had it been an innocent party then the two guys charged with homicide would be going to prison. Granted I have no use for living criminals so that may be the obstacle in my lens of understanding.

Why do people want to empower criminals and endanger law abiding citizens, is there some sick desire behind it, I can't figure it out. What happened to the days when the bad guys got their just desserts and we all gave a nod of approval to it.

A bunch of gangbangers went into another 'territory,' with the intent to cause trouble, they filled the threshold for reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm and one of them wound up dead. Whatever I could be sorry about that in that situation will be left unmentioned because of thehighroad.

There's zero rational, intelligent, of healthy mind, justification to strip law abiding citizens of their rights to lawful self-defense. You can't shoot someone for 'fighting words,' you can't shoot someone for being an aggressive little fangless punk, you can't shoot someone for looking angry.
 
I love 'Stand Your Ground' I just thought we called it Castle Doctrine, maybe some anti cry baby made it up.
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"Stand Your Ground" and "Castle Doctrine" are two separate legal concepts.

Castle Doctrine is the concept of having the ability to immediately use deadly force in your home when someone enters your home forcibly - it gives you the assumption that the person entering your home forcibly is doing so with the intent to harm or kill you. In states without castle doctrine laws, one must first determine that a person who has entered their home illegally has intent to do them harm or kill them prior to using deadly force. In states with castle doctrine laws, the act of forcibly entering a home by itself manifests that intent.

Stand your ground law is the concept that you have the absolute right to defend yourself against criminal activity by the use of force in any place that you are legally present at. It removes the necessity to attempt retreat before acting in defense. Stand your ground law does NOT give one the automatic right to use deadly force, however. In public, there must still be reasonable fear of grave bodily harm or death prior to using deadly force.
 
Voted no.

It's appalling whenever anyone - right, left or center - decides that one particular group is not morally entitled to equal protection. Gang banger or college president, everyone has a right to defend themselves. The method depends upon the circumstances, not upon whether I like the person applying self defense.

That said, the judge and apparently some others prefer a law that actually favors a wrong doer over a person enjoying their legal rights. That is is not equal rights.
 
This article is plainly slanted in opposition to the stand your ground law. I see nothing wrong with the law at all. It's upsetting though how many people seem to have no backbone these days. It is these kinds of people who hate this law.

All I can say is that if it's dismantled or altered to such a degree that it no longer represents what it was intended for, I still won't call the police first. I'll just walk away. If they knock this law down, there is going to be no way that anyone can defend themselves and not be thrown into prison and stripped of all their rights. You won't catch me calling in ANYTHING. I'll handle my business and get the hell out of dodge. I figure I'll have an equal, if not better chance of maintaining personal freedom.
 
I voted no, we need to nip this sillyness in bud.

I don't understand the logic, a couple gangs go at eachother which is fine by me I don't care if they want to kill eachother. They are doing society a favor as far as I'm concerned. But now they want to strip innocent people of their rights to defend themselves? Nuts.
 
No as well.

From the article: "...when this law was shoved through the Legislature by the National Rifle Association..."

Since when does the NRA mandate legislation at any level?

Total BS article by an idiot author.
 
Voted... the article seems to imply that the law makes it so no one can be held responsible. That is just plain wrong. The attacker or the person who incited the act of violence is still responsible. All it says is that the victim of the attack has no duty to retreat... which makes sense if we want to have a society that's intolerant of criminal violence.
 
Roswell_Kid said:
No as well.

From the article: "...when this law was shoved through the Legislature by the National Rifle Association..."

Since when does the NRA mandate legislation at any level?

Total BS article by an idiot author.
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lolwut?

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. The NRA may not mandate legislation in, but they are a lobbying behemoth. I'd say that's a baby step back from physically doing it themselves.
 
Yeah, that evil NRA.

"Right now the NRA is frantically shoving dangerous bills through Congress that would make it easier for criminals to get guns."

More shoving bills. And through the Congress! It must be true, because these guys say so.

I stand corrected. This must be a sane, rational article by a genius author.
 
Naw we cant crack it off and set it adrift. All the Dorado in the Atlantic will be swarming around it and the fishing everywhere else will be horrible!

Plus the state will look funny without it.

Cant we just run all of the terds out of town and ship them up to New York where they belong?
 
Didn't vote. I hate polls. Poll administraters can skew the result any way they wish.

The judge said it was like the "Wild West" so no one could be prosecuted. HUH? In the wild west gunfights, if the guy who drew 1st won, he was hanged or stood trial. If you drew last and won, you walked.

Drawing last means that you're defending yourself. Drawing 1st mean that you're trying to commit murder. Plain & simple.

think about it.... If no one draws 1st, there is no gun fight.
 
The newspapers link came up as "this page can not be found"

Maybe they saw it getting slammed and pulled it down?

;)
 
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