Please join the nra

[Vonderek]

Great if you want to belong to JFPO or GOA but to do so at the exclusion of the NRA ignores the fact of the matter that JFPO influence is minimal in comparison. THe NRA is rated the #1 most effective lobby (guns and otherwise) in the nation which is pretty significant when you realize that they beat out unions, drug companies, the petroleum industry, and environmental lobbies.

I've never heard of any politicians fearing JFPO. Or Chuck Schumer & Dianne Feinstein saying that "the JFPO is out of step with the American people."

 

[TravisB]

Travis, John Tester is hardly you're typical Democrat in Washington

It was Max Baucus, actually, who was elected recently with almost three-quarters of the vote. Montana's other pro-gun Democratic senator.

Tester and Baucus are actually pretty typical Democrats for the Mountain West.

Not every Democrat is Howard Dean. Oh, wait. Howard Dean was governor of gun-rights mecca Vermont for six terms without changing the gun laws and like fellow Democrats Tester and Baucus opposes "one size fits all" federal gun legislation.

What I meant to say is not every Democrat is a latte-sipping anti-gun liberal like that commie DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas. Oh, wait. Kos is a pro-gun-rights ex-Marine who fights anti-gun sentiment in the Democratic Party and has explicitly stated that the anti-gun-rights side has already "lost" the debate.

But yes, Senators Tester and Baucus are not like Senator Diane Feinstein. Not sure why this means the NRA should have a Republicans-only attitude.

 

[supernac]

Lots of kool-aid drinking here.

Factcheck.org is non-partisan.

Just face it,you're getting duped by the NRA, there's little evidence of Obama being "THE MOST ANTI-GUN PRESIDENT EVAR!!111".

I personally cannot wait until Obama's time in office passes without him going after guns.

No evidence other than his VOTING RECORD. The Inter-American Convention treaty was probably fabricated by the NRA as well

 

[supernac]

Instead of joining the NRA, may I please suggest joining a real "No Compromise Against Gun Control" organization, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership?

I’m a member of the JPFO, GOA, and the NRA. Each of these organizations has their pros and con's. Unfortunately in this day and age where politicians are bought and sold money talks, the NRA has the cash to put up the fights, not only at the federal level, but at the sate levels as well.

 

[kilo729]

No evidence other than his VOTING RECORD. The Inter-American Convention treaty was probably fabricated by the NRA as well

Yeah, he voted to prevent the Confiscation of firearms during a national emergency! What an evil gun hating radical muslim terrorist marxist-lennist!

Like I said, put the kool-aid down and dig some. Stop taking everything the NRA says as fact, they've lied before. Do some research and verify the information they put out.

 

[Vonderek]

Like I said, put the kool-aid down and dig some.

Ha ha! Look who's talking!

There's no sense in trying to reason with an Obama supporter. It's like arguing religion with a fanatic.

 

[chemist308]

The NRA does pretty good for only having 4 million members, of which not even 1/20'th are actively doing stuff to support our rights. Yes, they compromise way to much, but then they have to. Think about it, they've only got 4 million. Do you think they compromise much if they had 20 million?!

As it is, we need to support the NRA, GOA and JPFO, and in that approximate order. If more of us join the NRA, they could fund media campaigns. If more of us joined the NRA, it would mean more to politicians when the NRA said they couldn't support a politician who voted for a particular bill.

So yes, please do join the NRA. Join the GOA while your at it, or JPFO if your Jewish or like it better. Come on, between the two, it's about $50 for a year--how much have you spent on ammo this year already?

 

[Corporal K]

The GOA doesn't get JACK done. Don't kid yourself.

If not for the NRA, we'd be lucky to be like the UK.

 

[Corporal K]

The NRA endorse pro-gun Democrats all the time, including Howlin' Howie Dean. Unfortunatley, more Dems are anti-gun than Repubs are. Just a fact.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

Maybe if more gun owners would join and support the NRA,they(meaning WE) wouldn't have to compromise so much.

 

[X-Rap]

The GOA doesn't get JACK done. Don't kid yourself.

If not for the NRA, we'd be lucky to be like the UK

I've heard it called the Larry Pratt family trust fund. That is maybe to harsh but one thing is for sure, Slick Willy and Gore did not blame loosing national elections on GOA. The NRA is the 800 lb. gorilla and could be 10 fold stronger if more of the millions of gun owners would join.
I think the other orgs. would be crushed under the weight of the NRA's membership numbers which is something to think about should GOA get their wish.

 

[kilo729]

Ha ha! Look who's talking!

There's no sense in trying to reason with an Obama supporter. It's like arguing religion with a fanatic.

:banghead:

I'm not an Obama supporter, I just have my head in the right place and question what I'm being told by any group.

Bill Clinton gives Obama a run for his money on Anti-gun.
Hell, even GW said he'd sign the AWB if they put it in front of him and was for banning Standard Capacity mags.

I'm gonna reiterate what I've said several times in this thread:

Question everything. Don't take what the NRA, GOA, JPFO, SAF, CCRKBA, The Liberty Belles, SCCC, SAS, etc. say without QUESTIONING it. Question Authority.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Benjamin Franklin, whose advice was always worth taking, told his fellow revolutionaries, "We must all hang together, or we shall surely hang separately."

Now is not the time to be fragmented and to dredge up petty concerns. We hang together, or we hang separately.

 

[RDak]

I'm probably older than most of the members here and I know the NRA and other pro-gun organizations sometimes go a little overboard with the anti-gun scare tactics.

However, without the NRA, organizations like the NRA and individual pro-gunners, our 2nd Amendment rights would not exist today IMHO.

So, I will always be a member of the NRA and the Second Amendment Foundation. I also, at various times, contribute money to other pro-gun organizations.

It's the least I can do. Same for consistently contacting legislators, etc.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

King Ghidora. I am a Chistian and I did NOT take offense as I believe the referrence was to arguing with someone whose mind is already made up. FUTILE!

 

[Yo Mama]

Instead of joining the NRA, may I please suggest joining a real "No Compromise Against Gun Control" organization, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership?

And what has the JPFO ever accomplished?

Question everything. Don't take what the NRA, GOA, JPFO, SAF, CCRKBA, The Liberty Belles, SCCC, SAS, etc. say without QUESTIONING it. Question Authority.

At hand is not an argument if you should question authority. The NRA is not controlling me. I control them. So do every one of their members.

Unfortunatley, more Dems are anti-gun than Repubs are. Just a fact.

Not necessarily. Recently, many Dems elected were pro-gun, and for the first time they resisted members in their own party such as Holder.

Yeah, he voted to prevent the Confiscation of firearms during a national emergency!

WHAT! Incorrect, do not pass go. He did not vote to prevent it, he voted for it.

 

[Vonderek]

Would you please not insult religious people? It does no good to try to alienate people. Religion is supposed to be off topic on this board.

Are you kidding me??? I'm a Christian too and I made the original comment. To all close-minded religious and political fanatics who are impossible to have discussions with I am deeply sorry for alienating you from this discussion.

 

[Justin]

Instead of joining the NRA, may I please suggest joining a real "No Compromise Against Gun Control" organization, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership?

JPFO is a non-profit tax-exempt educational civil rights organization, not a lobby.

Due to their tax status as a non-profit, JPFO is legally prohibited from sending lobbyists to the hill to meet with legislators. They cannot propose model legislation. They cannot promote it among members of congress, nor do they have any actual sway with legislators who hold office.

JPFO's activism is based around producing materials designed to sway those who are undecided about gun control. While this is a laudable goal, and something that all of us who are pro-RKBA should do, it is not the same as engaging in political lobbying.

JPFO is no compromise, but they also have no legislative sway whatsoever.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

JPFO's activism is based around producing materials designed to sway those who are undecided about gun control.

That's right. Do you think you'll ever see the NRA produce such powerful activism tools like gun shaped cookie cutters? The battle over gun rights will be won by feeding no-compromise cookies to children, not by any sort of political lobbying power or national education programs.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

The battle over gun rights will be won by feeding no-compromise cookies to children, not by any sort of political lobbying power or national education programs.

But only if they're baked at midnight during a full moon and sprinkled with pixie dust.

 

[Hk91-762mm]

It was Max Baucus, actually, who was elected recently with almost three-quarters of the vote. Montana's other pro-gun Democratic senator.

Tester and Baucus are actually pretty typical Democrats for the Mountain West.

Not every Democrat is Howard Dean. Oh, wait. Howard Dean was governor of gun-rights mecca Vermont for six terms without changing the gun laws and like fellow Democrats Tester and Baucus opposes "one size fits all" federal gun legislation.

What I meant to say is not every Democrat is a latte-sipping anti-gun liberal like that commie DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas. Oh, wait. Kos is a pro-gun-rights ex-Marine who fights anti-gun sentiment in the Democratic Party and has explicitly stated that the anti-gun-rights side has already "lost" the debate.

But yes, Senators Tester and Baucus are not like Senator Diane Feinstein. Not sure why this means the NRA should have a Republicans-only attitude.===>>>>>>


MAX Bacus suppoted the 94 Billy Ban -If he had voted with us gunnies the ban would not have passed=We forced a recall on him and cost him big time he almost lost the next election --It must have been a come to jesus moment for him as I see he does not support an AW ban this time around --
99% of all antigun legislation gets shoved down out throats by Democrats with the RINOS going along for the ride --ANTI gun is listed as one of the dems platform points...
Gun Rights Are a platform point of the repubs !!!

 

[BhmBill]

Finally got my NRA card in the mail yesterday. Took about a month.

Go me!

 

[Justin]

Oh, wait. Kos is a pro-gun-rights ex-Marine who fights anti-gun sentiment in the Democratic Party and has explicitly stated that the anti-gun-rights side has already "lost" the debate.

That's pretty hilarious for anyone who's taken a few minutes to read what most "Kossacks" think about gun rights.

 

[blkbrd666]

The NRA says the incident depicted is "a true story." Not quite.

1)The actual 2003 burglary didn't involve a woman, and it didn't become violent until the male homeowner went downstairs and started firing before calling police.


2)The ad fails to mention that the issue was a local handgun ban that made the homeowner's gun illegal to keep in the house.


3)What Obama voted for was not any general repeal of the right of self-defense, but to uphold enforcement of the local gun ban, a "petty offense" that carried a maximum penalty of a $750 fine.

Quoted above is part of the text from one of the "fact check" links.

On #1 - I guess the guy was just supposed to let the burglar have a free run of his downstairs?

On #2 - Issue was a BAN on having a handgun in his HOME!?!?!?

On #3 - It appears Obama is afraid to stand for "change"...instead, he upholds a BAN.

Whether the NRA was truthful or not, the argument on that site to refute the NRA claim is a complete and total JOKE. I don't see how they could expect to fly that past anyone with even a 2 digit IQ.

 

[CoRoMo]

Wife and I are members. Son will be soon enough.