Please Sig Sauer owners...

[Ughh]

yea, over-travel. thnx.

So where's all the good smiths/armorers for one of the most popular pistols.
And what do you think of the work they've done on your pistol, if applicable.

 

[Ughh]

Yea Bovis, Sig's custom shop my last resort if i can't fnd someone good. I talked to Sig guys and looked at their list of stuff they would do and the action job options seem rather basic. I mean it reads like it's just a 'option 1' or 'type 1' if you will on a scale of 3 on trigger performance.

According to Sig, P series pistols are 10/4.4 lbs factory pull. Their custom shop, if i remember right, said it'll become like 8 or 9 lbs on DA and no less than 4 lbs on SA. And they smooth it both out.

I guess sufficient. I hope to hear from someone with their Sig that has seen their custom shop for a action work. How does it feel?

Thnx

 

[Sweden]

Uggh,

See Post #9, I have multiple P series that have been worked on by Sig and multiple that have been worked on by GGI. The quality is nearly identical. I recommend either one, with Sig having a faster turn around time. Sig will haggle on their prices, you can usually get them to pay shipping both ways. Sig's 'Grand Slam' was a steal, but I don't think they do that anymore. GGI does great work and might lighten the trigger more, but once smoothed, both are great! Best of luck!

 

[kevin387]

I know that Gray Guns specializes in Sigs but I have to respectfully disagree about TJ's work. He is opiniated (sp?) but does good work and to me that is what it is about. I have sent him several pistols and have been ok with one, very happy with several and ecstatic about two of them. He does good work.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I know that Gray Guns specializes in Sigs

actually he doesn't...he's just the best Sig gunsmith in the country

he is actually a true "custom" gunsmith

1. he just finished their first batch of 10mm 220 conversions...including developing the 10mm magazine
2. he originated the H&K long slide compensated P7M13...he still makes them
3. he invented the reduced reset trigger for the Sig P-series, that Sig later tried to reproduce with their SRT

 

[Ughh]

actually he doesn't...he's just the best Sig gunsmith in the country

he is actually a true "custom" gunsmith

1. he just finished their first batch of 10mm 220 conversions...including developing the 10mm magazine
2. he originated the H&K long slide compensated P7M13...he still makes them
3. he invented the reduced reset trigger for the Sig P-series, that Sig later tried to reproduce with their SRT

damn really?

Anyone else with their pistols shipped to any reputable gun smiths / armorers for trigger jobs got a good or bad experience to add?

 

[himurax13]

So Grayguns would be the best place to send in my Sig P220R SAO, P228 with SRT, and P229R DAK? I would like to shorten and slightly lighten the trigger pulls, especially the DAK. Does he still offer the reduced reset trigger that is better than the SIG SRT system? What are the turnaround times?

The TJ fellow is local but he is expensive and the turnaround times are fairly long. Has anyone installed one of his custom triggers that is supposed to reduce the length of pull and make it easier to roll the trigger?

 

[9mmepiphany]

you'll have to call the shop to check...he doesn't charge to answer the phone

www.Grayguns.com

 

[Ughh]

Hey-hey, welcome. I can see my thread sparked a new member who is interested in the same thing I am.

So can we get more input please from the many THR members.

We all know Glock, Sig Sauer, and 1911s are the most popular pistols, also in the competition world, period. You do a search for Glock trigger jobs and gunsmiths and you get a whole s**t load; 1911s is no different. So where are all the gunsmiths and armorers that offer performance trigger packages/enhancements for Sig Sauers??

 

[Wanta B]

10mmAuto P220s !?! I HAVE to check that out!! My favorite auto-pistol cartridge in one of my favorite handgun designs! He** yeh!! That just made my day.

Back in the mid '80s I drew up pictures to have a P-226 modified to be what is,today,the secound gen.(?) Blackwater Tactical,extended mag,magwell,beaver tail,forward serations and night sights...When I saw that version of the P-226...wellEmbarrassed to say I got one.Best freakin 9mm fullsize I have ever used!!EVERYTHING I had invisioned 25 years ago! Added a threaded barrel. Swapped grips and slide to NON-Blackwater. --I am NOT Blackwater!--

I have seen a version since,that does not have the beaver tail...The better choice for field use frankly. Beaver tails can get in the way.ya,ya .However this version of the 226 has the standard trigger...I realy like the new SRT.

I am very glad that I took a look at the pistol forum.The thought of this already superb handgun being better still...sweet! Definately going to check out Gray's and Apex...

 

[Ughh]

actually he doesn't...he's just the best Sig gunsmith in the country

he is actually a true "custom" gunsmith

Do you perhaps have any work done by Gray Guns?

 

[Ughh]

Here's pictures of from Sig Sauer of my P226

 

[9mmepiphany]

Do you perhaps have any work done by Gray Guns?

he has my 226 and a 228 that he is developing a special part to resurrect them from cracked rails and excessive frame wear. he also has my Colt 1991 that i'm having built up into a full custom.

i have a surplus P6 that was given their trigger cleanup and refinished in satin blue

my 226ST was given the full competition action tune by Scott (who is now at Apex Tactical)

 

[UniversalFrost]

why don't you just get the stones and polish and do it yourself????? my 229 and 239 took just a little stoning and polishing and are now totaly different triggers.

every gun I buy gets broken down and the internals polished and the triggers stoned and polished.

takes very little time and effort and can be done when you first break the gun apart to clean when you get (new guns have preservative all over them and used guns you never know if they were ever cleaned).

 

[Paints]

he has my 226 and a 228 that he is developing a special part to resurrect them from cracked rails and excessive frame wear.

Why have your 226 and 228 cracked? That's not something I normally hear about these pistols.

 

[9mmepiphany]

That's not something I normally hear about these pistols.

actually it was a pretty well known problem early in their production. there were a batch of 226s...back when you could buy them NIB for $370...that had weak rails. they usually crack under the actual rail from the locking block forward...mine's cracked along the right rail. at one time Sig Sauer would replace the frames, but mine was my duty gun, which mean i took care of it, and i had it a number of years before the problem came up. just for giggles, i donated i to Bruce Gray to develop a " cure" for it.

the 228 was one of the Israeli surplus one that were going for $299 a while back. it's still a shooter, but the rails have little finish left on them and i thought it would be nice to have it tightened up

 

[Ughh]

holy balls thats cheap

 

[9mmepiphany]

it was a long time ago. the 226 had just become available on the market and we were a bit put off because it only came with 2 mags

that gun replaced my H&K P7 (got it for $400 and replaced my Colt Combat Commander) as my duty gun for quite a while until a passing fancy with the .40 caused me to switch to the Beretta 96 for a while and finally back to a Sig 220 (another clearance gun at $450) when my job moved in out of Patrol

 

[Ughh]

Hey-Hey, I found another place

Not bad, as I was thinking about trading my Glock 30 SF (45. auto) for a 9mm in XDm 9

They do Sig too, although when browsing, no info was given about working on Sigs. I might hit them up.

http://powderriverprecision.com/Home_Page.html

 

[UniversalFrost]

dude a set of stones and some metal polish are under $20 (for cheap stones).

lots of online articles on how to do it (or just PM me) .

save yourself the money and time in shipping to someone else to do.

and you learn a new trait that can be used on any future guns or to make some cash on the side (I charge my buddies a case of beer for each trigger job they want done).

JOE

 

[Ughh]

LOL, I'd rather not experiment for the first time on my baby.

Although that .25 cent Trigger job for Glocks seemed interesting to do.

Anyone else know of custom/performance trigger jobs from reputable gunsmiths for Sig Sauers?

 

[UniversalFrost]

ok, then just send to me. I'll only charge you a case of beer (right now I am drinking Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale).

I have 10 sigs, lots of remington rifles, lots of weatherby's, and even a few berettas and glocks under my belt. Plus I do encore and G2 contenders. I even have an FFL!! (which reminds me I gotta send in my renewal paperwork).

 

[UniversalFrost]

to the OP and anyone else. I was just joking. It would be two cases of beer!!

ok, seriously, folks that want to do a trigger job, on a sig, or any other gun. This is a real simple process that involves the use of stones (the same kind you sharpen a knife with), and metal polish you would find at any hardware store.

A basic trigger job is straight forward and all you do is clean up the contact surfaces on the parts and make sure you maintain the proper angles (in some cases you will want to modify the angle, but this is unique to each gun platform). on factory triggers, the contact surfaces are not uniform, meaning there are high and low spots on the surfaces. The goal is to make the surfaces completely even and remove any burrs or machining marks and that way contact will be uniform and resistance will be as little as possible.

another step in a trigger job is the springs (again platform dependent), and then different triggers, such as a "short trigger" on sigs.

I mentioned previously that some guns you would want to change some of the angles, this is more advanced and varies from platform to platform. A majority of the guns, will be 100% better with a basic stoning and polishing which delivers a nice smooth pull and breaks like glass.

use google or search this and other forums for how to's on triggers, or just PM me and I will be able to get you started in the right direction. No need to drop 50 or more on a trigger job, when you can do it yourself for around $20 in supplies and a little time.

JOE

 

[Paints]

A lot of guns have been screwed up by amateur trigger jobs, some made very unsafe.

Oh, I'm sure that some can do it on their own. Other people (even "professionals") screw it up.

First thing I would suggest is: shoot the heck out of the gun! I have a Springfield Loaded 1911 (9mm) that initially was a little rough. After about 500 rounds, it's a good trigger.

OTOH, some guns should have never been left out of the factory! I had two Browning High Powers a dozen+ years ago that had triggers so bad that I sometimes thought the safety was on! The worst purchases I ever made. Before I reached the 500 round mark, the front sight broke off My FEG clone is a lot better (and better priced).

Ken

 

[Ughh]

A lot of guns have been screwed up by amateur trigger jobs, some made very unsafe.

Oh, I'm sure that some can do it on their own. Other people (even "professionals") screw it up.

First thing I would suggest is: shoot the heck out of the gun! I have a Springfield Loaded 1911 (9mm) that initially was a little rough. After about 500 rounds, it's a good trigger.

OTOH, some guns should have never been left out of the factory! I had two Browning High Powers a dozen+ years ago that had triggers so bad that I sometimes thought the safety was on! The worst purchases I ever made. Before I reached the 500 round mark, the front sight broke off My FEG clone is a lot better (and better priced).

Ken

Agreed.

Cmon guys, I need more suggestions. We only have like, 5 or 6 people so far.

I'm reallly thinking about going with that powderriverprecision.com or Gray guns for lack of a better option.

Sig Sauer's custom shop is too 'basic', if you will, for me.