I like Pocket guns and small guns. But IMO it probably does not get better than this. 10oz full loaded with 8 rounds of Underwood.
Keep it concealed, Keep it light, Keep it fast! - Keltec P32
"The man with his hand already on the gun wins!"
The Devil in the Shade 2019
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P32 is probably the best of the micro guns. I had one, it fits in any pocket and is very shootable.
If your opponent has a large knife or a pistol, you are likely screwed however.
My minimum for pistols is now a 642 and i rarely carry it (carried it everywhere for 4 years). Now I’m glock 19 all the way.
I tried the delta grip and for me it was a failure. For others, might be o.k.Well, revolver has few advantages: it can be shot from inside of coat pocket it's a better choice for ankle carry and Federal Premium Micro130gr +p .38 ammo is now available. You should be able to get 442 second-hand in virtually unused condition for $350. You will have to factor in $12.54 plus shipping for Ergo Delta grip from Tactical Wholesalers unless you're lucky and your gun comes with shooter friendly grip like S&W tactical. As you said holster will cost extra, but at least you don't have to buy anything to reload revolver with. Speed loaders and speed strips are a waste of money.
After much research and debate, I decided on a Kel-Tec PF-9. As far as I know, a .88" it's the thinnest 9mm out there, and at 12.7 oz. empty, possibly the lightest.
What's the top left ?I'm a big fan of *drop it in a pocket* guns. My general go-to now is a proven Ruger LCP that my wife currently has with her but each of these shown and others have filled the bill. Mostly, I carry the S&W 340SC. I stupidly, recently sold a S&W/Walther PP which was a WONDERFUL pistol despite a rocky introduction by S&W.
As for the 340, that beast is a wrist-buster with hot .357 loads so I roll-my-own spicy .38s in .357 cases. I'd much rather have a .38 ONLY framed version that'll handle +P should I choose.
The beauty of the LCP is that it completely disappears in a hip pocket, is easily recovered and fired, has proven to be very reliable and allowed me to try many different .380 rods as it is not the least bi finicky.
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AMT .45 Back Up. Great .45 with a pretty spotty reputation as many of the firearms left the AMT factory needing final attention. Springs and generous polishing and they are - or were - an outstanding back-up gun. So many more options available these days.What's the top left ?
I was too, at one time.I recently decided to get a pocket gun, meaning a gun that will fit in my pants pocket, so as to make it easier to carry all day, every day.
This thing is *STILL* going ? Good Lord above
They're still being produced ?AMT .45 Back Up. Great .45 with a pretty spotty reputation as many of the firearms left the AMT factory needing final attention. Springs and generous polishing and they are - or were - an outstanding back-up gun. So many more options available these days.
This one got a lot of attention and feeds everything I've loaded it with and has incredibly surprising accuracy with my preferred load of Federal Hydras.
The poor fit&finish was common across their line at different times and different factory locations in particular.
Todd.
Sadly, no.They're still being produced ?
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Sadly, no.
AMT (as a general name) has an interesting past that has bounced around like a drunken football.
At various times and in carried locations they have been know as; AMT, Irwindale Arms, Auto Mag, Galena and others.
Basically, it's a core-base of wonderful ideas centering on stainless steel semi-autos from back when that was quite unusual in general and usually prohibitively expensive in particular.
Long-slide PRODUCTION 1911s, .30 Carbine pistols, Corbon, 9x23, *micro* before it was a thing..... Lots of ground-breaking ideas that simply never took solid footing.
Some truly amazing firearms were produced and generally speaking - regardless the *facts* out there - they need little more than full detail stripping and individual polishing and re-fitting to return a pleasure FAR exceeding the cost in time and money.
Last turn they took was to be bought by High Standard (along with several others) just before HS closed up shop - for now.
The top is my maxi-gat with a standard Gold Cup for comparison.
I've had several-few *AMT*s and Auto-Mags and will likely never sell any anymore as I regret all the ones I've passed along.
Todd.
I was too, at one time.
But it is difficult to access thee firearm quickly, and for self defense, that's a necessity.
Also, smaller guns are much more difficult to shoot effectively than larger ones.
A gun in a jacket pocket can prove useful.
10-15 will do.And no they are not hard at all to shoot effectivily, at least out to 10 -15 yds.
That's a real advantage of jacket pocket carry, but it trying to do that with a pants pocket could lead to trouble.Not only that, you can actually have you gun in the pocket with your hand on the gun and that is a very fast draw.
10-15 will do.
But I did not say that they are "hard" to shoot effectively. I said that they are more difficult to shoot effectively than larger ones. A bigger grip, longer sight radius, greater weight, and a greater moment of inertia all help with controlled, rapid shooting.
That's a real advantage of jacket pocket carry, but it trying to do that with a pants pocket could lead to trouble.