I'm still using the same LCR I've had for years for pocket carry, but maybe it's time to look into something of the semiauto flavor.
Do you significantly favor any one over the others?View attachment 872552 I have several pocket pistols but my other half and I usually have an LCP at least on our person.
Alrighty then.
Having observed numerous students in realistic defensive training using many different firearms, and having a pretty good understanding of Newtonian physics, I do not find that claim to be credible.
I referred to a post from someone who wanted to carry in a pants pocket.
There is nothing faster than a pocket pistol in a jacket pocket when the defender is already grasping it. And that can usually be accomplished with discretion. Usually.
But pocket carry offers no advantage over a waistband holster, and if the defender is sitting, pants pocket carry can be a poor choice.
Folks, simply posting pictures is not very helpful. Anyone can find them. Try for some value-added.
Don't bet on it.I am delighted that your understanding of Newtonian physics is so flawed.
I know a number of people who are capable with a pocket gun. It's a matter of comparison.And obviously you have not had students that are capable with a pocket gun.
Defeats the purpose, doesn't it?As far as sitting. My Gosh, simply take out of the pocket
I had not mentioned that, but with the same grip, and with the gun easily accessible, there shouldn't be a difference, should there?And with consistent training, grasping a Pocket gun can obviously be much faster than you are willing to accept.
What's that about?It is akin to saying that someone that juggles Basketballs is more capable than one that can juggle golf balls.
Well, I sure didn't understand what you were trying to say.The basketball analogy was in reference to your "Draconian" view of physics.
I said that I do not want draw it when I am about to sit down at a lunch table.And your comment that when you sit at a lunch table, you do not want to draw your gun?
I carried one for several years, in a pants pocket. I stopped after availing myself of some realistic training.I have a feeling you have never carried a pocket gun and have very little knowledge of them.
Not your call.And as far as others, please keep on posting your Pictures.
....4) .22 is inexpensive, relatively quiet and of KNOWN lethality....
Todd
I shoot full size 9mm and snubbies in competition . I shoot a 1911 similarly. I shoot both well. My experience that the belt guns are easier and more accurate. Note I shoot the pocket guns a lot. In the past few months I have shot IDPA with two different Js. I also put several hundred rounds through them at a square range. Some of the matches were special short range matches.
My friend, Karl Rehn has thoroughly researched this. There is no debate that you can shoot the little guys well, you are better with the larger guns. To argue otherwise just embarrasses the poster.
When you have the equivalent training that Mordechai Rachamim had where you can place .22 bullets with eye ball accuracy then I guess that makes sense.What?
Nobody has brought up the possibility of multiple attackers with nuclear suicide vests and air support?
As Mae West might have said:"Is that an M2 in your pocket, or are you glad to see me?"
The Mossad has successfully employed .22 pistols---ten rounds on target at close range is a proven killer---and when a pocket gun comes into play, it will most often be at close get off me range.
If you're intent on shooting the piano player from across the saloon, there are better tools.
Just saying.
The same could be said about the 9mm or even the .45---which is supposed to be able to founder a horse, according to the Army's specifications.”.
With a .22 to the extremities of someone who’s blood is up they sometimes don’t even know they’ve been shot until later.
The high standards of THR mean we call out inaccurate claims. Matches, competition and experimental tests mean more than some guys someone knows.
Which is more likely? That someone will fail to notice being shot with or be physically affected after being shot in a non-vital area by a .22 rimfire or by a centerfire handgun cartridge like the 9mm or .45 ACP?
In my experience of treating dozens of people shot in the arms and legs with all three I can tell you it’s more likely to happen with smaller cartridges like the .22LR and .25 ACP although you are right, they may not notice or be dissuaded at all.
If the GSW doesn’t lead to rapid blood loss, exsanguination and death or instant paralysis the only thing that might dissuade them from continuing the attack is if they feel sufficiently injured to seek medical attention.
So because they may not be affected or notice with anything even if shot to pieces your idea is to go with the smallest of the bunch?
I’ve seen more gunshot wounds to some place other than the central nervous system that caused the individual in question to quit what they were doing and run or lay down on the ground with their arms and legs spread and their hands in plain sight. Most of the gunfights I’ve seen aren’t ended in dome, heart or spine splitting shots.
.22LR pistols don’t make much sense except in the light of it's better to be armed with something instead of nothing, but then it doesn’t have to. Completely up to you as a person.