most shots fired off back porch, sometimes shoot in son's Big backyard with 200 ft steep hill for backstop. mostly at home on 80 yard range. i dont want to cut down trees either, sides 80 yds is about the upper limit for me to group well. there is a U.S. Forest service range about 5 mi away, but yokels have trashed it. they show up, i leave. beer, guns, big mouths just not for me. but, they have a good time and haven't killed each other yet.