Powder measure / dropper

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Yamifrk

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Just looking for some opinions/recommendations on manual powder droppers. Loading for my S&W 460 mag. So using H110/296 and other ball powders. I’ve been trickling each charge and it’s too time consuming. So which way to go?
Max charge less than 50 grains
 
I use a Lee for plinker ammo. And an JDS Quick Measure for all else. Always interested in the experiences others have with different measures.
 
Just looking for some opinions/recommendations on manual powder droppers. Loading for my S&W 460 mag. So using H110/296 and other ball powders. I’ve been trickling each charge and it’s too time consuming. So which way to go?
Max charge less than 50 grains
I chose Lee because I primarily use the Lee dippers. However, I also own an RCBS Uniflow II; but, I don’t use it. Too cumbersome and time consuming. I can throw a load from a dipper in about five seconds using my eyes as scales and be within half-a-grain. I’m never in a hurry so I take the time to weigh each throw on a 5-0-5 - just to be sure. The Uniflow is slower and less accurate - for me.
Don’t do what I do, though. It won’t work for you like it does for me.
 
I have a Lyman and it works, but my Intellidropper has a larger reservoir and is faster with less errors. It is also easier to clean out than the Lyman. When I use the powder tune feature, it will keep up with me and my turret press.
 
I use Lyman measures, both their traditional old 55, and the newer blackpowder measure. I am perfectly happy with them, but I do not recommend them for H110 and similar ball powders. The tolerances are loose enough that they can bind on fine-grained powders.
 
manual powder droppers.

ball powders ... Max charge less than 50 grains
I manually drop powder charges on my Dillon 550 with C-H 502 micrometer powder measure - https://www.ch4d.com/products/equipment/powder-tools/502

It will meter most ball powders with around .12 gr spread - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/c-h-502-micrometer-powder-measure-10-drops.834894/

C-H 502 metered W296/H110 with .16 gr spread but Pro Auto Disk with .12 gr spread - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/had-an-idea-for-an-invention.918219/#post-12606752
 
I chose Lee because I primarily use the Lee dippers. However, I also own an RCBS Uniflow II; but, I don’t use it. Too cumbersome and time consuming. I can throw a load from a dipper in about five seconds using my eyes as scales and be within half-a-grain. I’m never in a hurry so I take the time to weigh each throw on a 5-0-5 - just to be sure. The Uniflow is slower and less accurate - for me.
Don’t do what I do, though. It won’t work for you like it does for me.
I’m not as good as you @GeoDudeFlorida yet…it definitely takes some practice but,
I have been using the lee dippers and then checking on my scale. I get pretty close then just trickle it to where I want to be. I was hoping to find a way to speed it up. I know I should slow down and be enjoying it more but I work 70 plus hours a week. So I don’t have a lot of extra time.
 
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I use a Lee Pro Auto Disc and a Hornady. The Lee leaks H110 a little but not much. If I use the variable charge bar instead of the discs, it leaks more.
The Hornady doesn't leak hardly any at all. Both are very reliable and accurate.
I had an old Uniflow from the early 1990s, I couldn't get the accuracy I wanted out of it, I gave it away. I've heard the newer ones are much better.
 
I’m not as good as you @GeoDudeFlorida yet…it definitely takes some practice but,
I have been using the lee dippers and then checking on my scale. I get pretty close then just trickle it to where I want to be. I was hoping to find a way to speed it up. I know I should slow down and be enjoying it more but I work 70 plus hours a week. So I don’t have a lot of extra time.
Yup. I have a lot of years practice with those things. Where the measure let me down is in two ways: first, I still have to weigh every drop, I’m not saving a step; and, second, with the dippers I fill an old pill bottle with just enough powder for the batch so there’s nothing to dump back into the bottle, but with the measure if the hopper was getting close to the bottom it stopped working. You have to fill the hopper at least halfway and keep it above 1/8th or it’s not reliable. That adds steps and risks (spills, leavings, contamination, etc) so I gave up on it and went back to dipping and weighing. I use the dipper to trickle, too even though I have a trickler (another experiment in doing things “a better way” that didn’t pan out).
 
I’ve used RCBS, Hornady and Dillon, they all meter really well but I’m not sure how you’d use the Dillon off the press. I really liked the Hornady’s design where you could just change the metering insert and have it set for a specific charge for a specific powder. They also sell a micrometer insert and you can dial in a charge and then go back to it.
 
Most of my reloading is done on my Dillon 750 and I have great results but I don’t really load that much 460 to justify the conversion kit. Well at least that’s what I’m trying to convince myself, I have 10 different conversion kits so honestly what’s one more:cool: I think subconsciously I’m just looking for an excuse to use my single stage. For me the Dillon is easy to set up for test loads as well, so most times my rcbs just hangs out on the bench.:thumbdown:
 
I have 2 Lee disc one mounts on the press and the other has a stand, both work well for loading with the single disc, I have not perfected the "double disc" system so I stopped trying it and if I load above the amount of a single disc, I use the Hornaday electronic powder drop. You can drill and tap a hole in one of the disc and make it more variable. I have an older Hornaday that leaks so I stopped using it.
 
When I resumed loading a couple years ago, I went on a quest to find a RCBS Uniflow. The one I found has the large cylinder. Many of the powders I use are of the lincoln log stick types, like IMR 4350 and IMR 4064.. So not only was there that "crunch" as it tried to cut thru the edge of those logs, because it has the large cylinder, it isn't all that accurate. So I tried using that dinky, crappy looking Lee I got with a box of other Lee stuff, and lo and behold, that little piece of plastic crapola ran circles around anything else. It has a tall, skinny, adjustable measure cylinder that easily handles the stick powders, has the ability to turn on and off, can lift the powder tube off to dump it. On top of all that, is remarkably accurate. Like a tall, skinny Lee dipper.

Speaking of those, in the stash of remnant loading equipment I got from my dad, was an old set of unused Lee dippers, and with every set of Lee dies, you get a dipper. Most are too small for the caliber they come with. What I also found was the modern era dippers are of a different size than the old ones (2.8cc ought to be 2.8cc, but are not), and there is a jump between dipper sizes that may or may not mate up to the load you want. But Lee dippers are perfect for load development. Dip it up, weigh it out, trickle it up to exact weight you want. THEN, once load development is completed, work with the Lee powder measure to meter out that weight and you will be within 0.2 grains most of the time, even with the big sticks. Close enough for most of us.
 
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I usually use a Uniflo with small cylinder for single stage loading.

My first measure after dippers was a Redding which now has a metal hopper for black powder.

I have the odd looking Bonanza but it doesn't get out much, it is tedious to adjust.

My PACT dispenser has failed, I should get on the horn and see if they will fix it.
 
That’s how I have been doing it as well just trickling out of the dipper. I like the idea of dipping out of a separate container, “pill bottle”
Or something similar.
If I'm doing a smallish (couple dozen) handgun rounds I'll fill the FA trickler, scoop out of it with a homemade dipper, and then trickle the last bit with the FA.

For folks who don't have a trickler, a trick I learned here on THR is to fill an empty bottleneck case with powder and use it like a trickler (hold it sideways and twirl it with your thumb and finger). Works pretty well and doesn't take up space on the bench, but a lot easier to knock over and spill than a trickler with a weighted base.
 
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