I was looking at Hodgdon’s website for reloading data for the 22 Hornet. One option they gave was 11.3 grains of H110. Isn’t H110 a magnum pistol powder? I know they use it in 30 Carbines cartridges for the M1 Carbine but isn’t it, relative to rifle powders, a fast burner? Wouldn’t a slower burning powder be a better option (for the 22 Hornet)?
Powders for 22 Hornet?
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Yes, it's a common pistol powder, but it's also very suitable for use in the 22 Hornet. Other slow pistol powders like 2400, IMR4227, and Lil' Gun will also work in the 22 Hornet. My personal favorites for the 22 Hornet are Accurate 1680 and Alliant 300MP. The 22 Hornet case is very small and the body diameter isn't much larger than the bore, so nearly all rifle powders are too slow for good results in the 22 Hornet.
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FROGO207
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My favorite propellant is Lil Gun. Basically a case full and a 35 to 45 grain Hornet specific bullet is lights out accurate in my hornet. It is around 13 grains and is compressed but works oh so good. As stated it baically acts as a modified straight walled pistol cartridge and works well with those slower pistol propellants.
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FROGO207
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These days it mostly depends on what is available, sadly. Hopefully things will shake loose and there will once again be many choices available.
Well I have 1680 here but have had such good luck with Lil Gun that I never tried it. Might try out a ladder and see where that gets me. I always figured 3 LBS of Lil Gun would be a lifetime supply for me now and already had a few loads worked up, so just lazy I guess LOL.
Well I have 1680 here but have had such good luck with Lil Gun that I never tried it. Might try out a ladder and see where that gets me. I always figured 3 LBS of Lil Gun would be a lifetime supply for me now and already had a few loads worked up, so just lazy I guess LOL.
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H110 was surplus .30 carbine powder Bruce Hodgdon reintroduced with a new name in '62 for loading the .30 carbine, 410 shotshells and magnum revolver cartridges. Hodgdon's site has LOTS of loading data for .22H and H110. Like a lot of powders out there, H110 is not a magnum revolver powder, it is a rifle powder which also works in revolvers with heavy, strong actions and some shotshells. Really though, there isn't "rifle powder" or "magnum revolver powder" there's just nitro - some is double-base, some is single-base, a very few are triple-base - smokeless powder has characteristics - burn rate, gas expansion, thermal properties, etc. - which determine where it can be used and where it's dangerous or not very useful. You *could* use IMR 4895 in a magnum revolver cartridge (just as an example - trying it would be foolish!) but the results would be less than stellar. Testing labs try not to waste time and resources on bad combinations so no data exists for IMR 4895 (or similar powders) in any revolvers (data for rifles using the same chamberings does exist). Make sense?
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Ranger99
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2400 was originally designed for the Hornet
Says so right on the packaging
( although it's used for many other things)
Says so right on the packaging
( although it's used for many other things)
Scooter22
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I,ve been using Lil gun for years in my 77/22H. If you can find it thats what I,d get. Another tip is to use small pistol primers, Remington if you can find them. Small Rifle blow the powder and bullet out of the case as it,s lighting. SP starts the powder and lets it do it;s job. I did notice my groups were tighter and more uniform with SP primer.
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Crosshair
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Lil-Gun and Small Pistol Primers.
Good velocities, low pressure, great case life.
Good velocities, low pressure, great case life.
Small magnum pistol primers? H110 kind of requires magnum primers.
Scooter22
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No standard with Lil Gun. The Remingtons actually are the lowest power SP primers and seem to work the best. I never used H110.
Archie
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This is a confusing but simple matter. The main difference in smokeless powders is the burn rate.
What burn rate to use is based on the ratio of the weight of propellent to weight of bullet and the expansion ratio of the arm. (There are a number of other distinctions, such as pressure limits of the arm and such.)
This explains why many shotgun powders are also used in handguns, and some of the large caliber 'powerful' rifles use a relatively fast burning powder.
Manual are printed by those who typically have done some work and research in the field of reloading. Be cautious, but generally believe in them.
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Actually the best primers for the Hornet are Remington 6 1/2, if you can find any. That was what they were designed to be used in.
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