Professor offended by firearm dealer ad in paper

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This was in my papers opinion page following an add last weekend, please take the time to read this contractictory piece he wrote, and feel free to share your opinions with him (contact on bottom) thanks.


Do Guns Belong On Holiday List?
Frank Harris III November 30, 2007 Guns don't shoot by themselves — this I know.

Invariably, there is some finger attached to a hand attached to an arm attached to a body and within it a beating heart and a human mind — whether sober or sane, crazed or in pain — that leads to the big boom, crack or bang that sends a bullet or two or three or more hurtling toward the target.

Sometimes it is justified; sometimes not.
Whatever the circumstance, I was stunned to see the gun advertisement on the back cover of an insert in a New Haven newspaper. On the front cover were the words "holiday gift guide" featuring pictures of DVDs, CDs, toys and apparel.

On that back cover, however, was a full-page ad for handguns, complete with list price, sale price and "4 high capacity magazines PLUS $50 cash back with (a) mail-in rebate."

Topping it off was the illustration of a gunslinger sporting a Western hat with two pistols in his hands. But lest we worry, there were these comforting words just above the name of the gun center that placed this festive ad: "Guns for the Good Guys."

Ah, that makes me feel good. Only the good guys will get these guns.

But good guys are not good all the time. And even if they were, there are those bad guys who wind up with the good guys' guns in their hands through thievery or a cold, hard transaction. (Because good guys like money, too — even if the money comes from bad hands).

In any case, I suppose gun dealers have to earn a living, too. And such guns are not illegal. And the Second Amendment grants Americans the right to bear arms — and not just as a militia to protect the nation's freedom.

The market for guns is certainly out there in this nation of ours, if not to protect our freedom, then to protect our lives and possessions.

According to a Gallup survey conducted in early October 2007, 42 percent of Americans have guns in their homes. That means more than half of Americans are gun-free. But with all the news of violence taking place, the fear factor certainly kicks in — even if the news reports on violence might exceed the actual violence taking place.

Still, with all the perceived violence, 68 percent of Americans surveyed said there should not be a ban on handguns that would limit guns solely to law enforcement and other authorized persons.

Maybe that is because, according to an ABC News poll conducted earlier this year, half of all Americans do not believe stricter handgun laws would lead to a reduction in violence.

Most Americans in that same ABC poll said the primary cause of gun violence is not the proliferation of guns, but rather popular culture and the way families raise their children. Certainly, there is some merit to these positions.

Yes, if only we could stop all those video games, movies, and violent song lyrics and get non-parenting parents to start parenting — we could end this mess without a shot being fired.

So if I could chat with Santa, I'd ask him to have a sit-down with his elves about making all those violence-promoting video games, movies and violent song lyrics. And send a note to those parents too about responsibility.

But at the risk of folks calling me Frankie Grinch or the Gun Scrooge of Christmas, I can't leave out the guns.

Certainly I don't think a gun ad in a family newspaper is what the world needs this holiday season in a nation where, according to the National Education Association's Health Information Network, American children are more at risk from gun violence than children in any other industrialized nation.

Certainly Americans don't need a gun in every stocking when, according to the Centers for Disease control, homicide and suicide are the leading causes of teen deaths, with 80 percent of these deaths resulting from guns.

So if I could pull Santa's beard — without the fear that he's packing heat in his bag — I'd tell him guns are too heavy for the holiday stockings.

Frank Harris III is chairman of the journalism department at Southern Connecticut State University in New Haven. His column appears every other Friday. He can be reached at [email protected].
http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-harris1130.artnov30,0,772941.column
 
Unsurprising. They always use the term "gun-free" as if its a good thing like "drug-free", when it means "defenseless" instead.

And how many times are people going to reiterate this false myth that somehow music or video games "create" violence or violent people? The evil is in the human heart.
 
He didn't appear to be too emotionally anti-gun, but still a bit uninformed. He admits the purpose of the 2A and seems fairly intelligent so he's probably a fence-sitter.

But good guys are not good all the time. And even if they were, there are those bad guys who wind up with the good guys' guns in their hands through thievery or a cold, hard transaction. (Because good guys like money, too — even if the money comes from bad hands).
Those aren't good guys. Those are bad guys. And there is no shortage of guns for them, so not selling to good guys harms nobody but the good guys.
But at the risk of folks calling me Frankie Grinch or the Gun Scrooge of Christmas, I can't leave out the guns.
You don't have to buy any. Do ads for male enhancement offend you? Are you saying there should be censorship in newspapers?

according to the National Education Association's Health Information Network, American children are more at risk from gun violence than children in any other industrialized nation.
Don't get your statistics from anti-gun groups.
 
Do you realize the significance from the following quote, dug out of the middle of the article?

In any case, I suppose gun dealers have to earn a living, too. And such guns are not illegal. And the Second Amendment grants Americans the right to bear arms — and not just as a militia to protect the nation's freedom. The market for guns is certainly out there in this nation of ours, if not to protect our freedom, then to protect our lives and possessions.
 
devonai-haha, yea i think they should have a "blowout sale" in honor of this guy, but you know whats funny, this guy advertised for them for free basically.

romma-yes he does, keltecs good, id love to see a berrett flyer after
 
Come on people, he's a professor of JOURNALISM. He hasn't had an original or intelligent thought in his head since his senior year of high school.
 
zxcvbob said:
Do you realize the significance from the following quote, dug out of the middle of the article?

yeah Bob, I do. But unfortunately, Prof. Harris scuttles it in all of the emotional tripe he piled on and around it. Which leads right back to that "not thinking" about what it is he's saying.

Seems to me he's one of those folks that actually has the right answers in front of him, but just doesn't want to believe them. :(


J.C.
 
I know he's anit-gun, but he actually seems to have weighed the other side's arguements.
such guns are not illegal. And the Second Amendment grants Americans the right to bear arms — and not just as a militia to protect the nation's freedom.
Yep. That's correct, Professor. Its a right of the people.

The market for guns is certainly out there in this nation of ours, if not to protect our freedom, then to protect our lives and possessions.
We have elections to protect our freedom, and guns to protect our lives. Great point.

42 percent of Americans have guns in their homes. That means more than half of Americans are gun-free. But with all the news of violence taking place, the fear factor certainly kicks in — even if the news reports on violence might exceed the actual violence taking place.
With all that news of violence being reported, expect the number of households with guns to climb.

half of all Americans do not believe stricter handgun laws would lead to a reduction in violence.
Half of all Americans are thinking for themselves.

the primary cause of gun violence is not the proliferation of guns, but rather popular culture and the way families raise their children.
That's what gun owners have been saying all along. I'm glad the professor pointed this out.

So if I could chat with Santa, I'd ask him to have a sit-down with his elves about making all those violence-promoting video games, movies and violent song lyrics. And send a note to those parents too about responsibility.
I agree completely, especially about parents taking responsibility and actually raising their children, rather than just feeding and housing them untill they are 18.

according to the Centers for Disease control, homicide and suicide are the leading causes of teen deaths
Only because our medical system wiped out all the horrible diseases which would otherwise kill thousands of youth every year.

So if I could pull Santa's beard — without the fear that he's packing heat in his bag — I'd tell him guns are too heavy for the holiday stockings.
Good point... the weight of a gun and ammo could very well pull the stockings right of the fireplace mantle. Tell Santa to leave them wrapped up under the tree, instead! :neener:
 
My proposed reply,

I am writing in regards to your editorial in the register about the gun ad that you thought was inappropriate for the holidays. Are you sir suggesting as chairman of the journalism department at SCSU that you believe in newspaper censorship? I don't seem to get the drift how you would like the Register to act after putting this gun ad in. Are you suggesting not having any gun adds during holidays?. It may shock you, but many people buy legal legitimate firearms as holiday gifts. A gun sir, is a tool, an object on it’s own that cannot do harm unless it is operated, as I am sure you must know. There is a difference between the gun culture, and thug culture.

If you associate it with violence and thug culture, it simply means you are afraid what you yourself might do and what emotions might come up if you had a firearm. Your logic in thinking that it is not right to have a gun ad in a paper because it implies a violence association, so let me ask you this. More people are killed per year in this country by traffic accidents in cars than guns, so does this mean Nissans winter car clearance shouldn't advertise either?

Your article was very contradicting in some areas, because you start to talk about some very legitimate points in how the 2nd applies, but then quote a statistic from the CDC (which is misleading because they don't define what a teen is, thus making the percentile larger) which is well known to have an anti-gun bias in itself.

The holidays are in some ways expression of the celebration of life, and it is unfortunate you think guns are too heavy for it. It is quite possible that many legally purchased firearms will be used to defend life at some point after they are purchased this holiday. I understand your want for peace during the holidays, and I agree, but your article sends a clear message that you felt the image of firearms gave you a negative stereotype after seeing it in the paper. I feel saddened for what your opinion article represents as an attitude towards guns in the public eye, but respect your alternative viewpoints. Thanks for your time.



Sincerely,
 
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jorg, buddy I planned on it, I was just wondering content wise how it was.
 
Yes, if only we could stop all those video games, movies, and violent song lyrics and get non-parenting parents to start parenting — we could end this mess without a shot being fired

In other words, if we could live in a totalitarian state, with rules of the authors choosing, everything would be hunky dory. How original.
 
:neener: Didn't we allready discuss "professors" on another thread:D:scrutiny:

Just proves what I was saying, they always know what's good for everybody but them. The bad point is with the rhetoric escalating they will try to tax us out of our guns like they did tobaco.

jj
 
So if I could pull Santa's beard...I'd tell him guns are too heavy for the holiday stockings.
Clearly he's never enjoyed a scandium J frame or 1911sc or baby Glock or PPK or Kahr or... :D
 
Didn't we allready discuss "professors" on another thread

Just proves what I was saying, they always know what's good for everybody but them.

No, JJ--it doesn't prove your contention in the other thread, which was a bigoted generalization. Perhaps if you could restrain your comments to the individual under discussion here you could avoid such egregiously fallacious leaps of logic.


This is much more accurate:

An educated fool is still a fool.

No one can argue with that! :D
 
So if I've got it right, this is just a whiny rant rather than advocacy of a particular political position, right? Why in the world would he waste his time on such a silly piece? Does he really think we care what he thinks "the world needs" in a "family newspaper. . .during the holiday season"? :barf:

Well, at least he got this right!

Guns don't shoot by themselves — this I know.
 
Family Newspaper.....

Yes Polish I picked up on this wording as well...what IS a "family newspaper" exactly? Since when do we believe a news agency could stay in business long by reporting on family-oriented, subject matter for starters. It is an interesting, emotionally charged term (family_ _ _ _) that you can attach to just about anything to get people's hairs to stand up. For ex.: I'm in my 'family home' right at the moment, viewing a Discussion Forum pertaining to firearms on my ...gasp...'FAMILY COMPUTER'...THINK OF THE CHILDREN! sarcasm off....:rolleyes:
 
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