Is a DAK or LEM type trigger any 'safer' than a Glock, XD, etc?
I know they are all safe when carried correctly, but take it with a grain of salt.
From an objective standpoint, which is better?? Which is harder to have an AD with?
To make a long story short: I am in the process of choosing a conceal carry weapon. I have always been uncomfortable with the idea of carrying a glock, xd, etc condition one, though I am becoming more open to the idea. No need for lectures on why its better/ just as safe as any other set-up, I am am not comfortable with it. I am not comfortable with it, which would result in me carrying condition 3 much of the time if i carried such type handgun, which I definitely don't feel comfortable with either due to the limitations you put on yourself carrying in this condition.
With that in mind, I began my search for a TDA (DA/SA) gun, and have basically narrowed my choices down to a few select Sigs and HKs.
At this point I must mention: I have only been shooting a little over two and half years, and the gun I have trained most extensively with has been an XD (SAO) therefore if I decide to go w/ a TDA type trigger I will already be learning to use a new trigger. I have not been shooting so long that a certain type of trigger is engraved in to my habits. Point is, whatever action I choose I will probably be using that action for a long time, as I am a big believer in consistency of habits for when shtf. This is the same reason my collection will probably begin to revolve around one brand line, so as to streamline controls on all my carry pistols. As a sidenote, that is one of the things I am debating w/ the HKs right now. Do I really want to train myself on the euro mag release, when 90% other pistols use the traditional mag release button?
I have read many people saying the H&K LEM and Sig DAK models are the best thing since sliced bread. But for every person that says they love it, there is another person that says they sold off their gun because they couldn't stand the trigger. Confusing, no?
But, for me, I have not become so accustomed to one type of trigger that I won't be able to use one or the other. I get the impression that a lot of the people that don't like the DAK/LEM trigger just don't like changing their ways, whereas in my case, I am just now learning my ways. In other words, I am more concerned w/ the benefits and negatives of the trigger itself when compared to TDA, rather than not being able to adapt to a new trigger system.
Ilike the idea of a heavy trigger on a TDA when carrying for extra safety to help prevent an AD. However, this heavy first shot/light second shot transition is the same reason I somewhat dislike the TDA system in action.
I like the benefits of the LEM/DAK systems, and I hear when learned correctly they can be employed exceptionally, but it seems that if I go w/ one of these triggers, I am disregarding the reason I looked at TDA guns in the first place (heavy trigger to prevent AD).
I guess what I'm really asking is: is there any difference in safety of a LEM/DAK trigger vs a typical Glock, M&P etc trigger? Obviously w/ a TDA you have the heavy initial pull. Is the LEM/DAK trigger longer on the first pull, or heavier etc. than a Glock/XD, or basically the same?
I can see a lot of benefit to the DAO type of trigger, but I can train myself to shoot a TDA correctly and feel comfortable carrying it, whereas at this point I would not feel comfortable carrying a SAO condition one (or a DAO with with trigger as light and short as a glock, XD, etc).
Did that make sense at all?
Also, I apologize if I got confused on some of the conditions of carry in my post.
I know they are all safe when carried correctly, but take it with a grain of salt.
From an objective standpoint, which is better?? Which is harder to have an AD with?
To make a long story short: I am in the process of choosing a conceal carry weapon. I have always been uncomfortable with the idea of carrying a glock, xd, etc condition one, though I am becoming more open to the idea. No need for lectures on why its better/ just as safe as any other set-up, I am am not comfortable with it. I am not comfortable with it, which would result in me carrying condition 3 much of the time if i carried such type handgun, which I definitely don't feel comfortable with either due to the limitations you put on yourself carrying in this condition.
With that in mind, I began my search for a TDA (DA/SA) gun, and have basically narrowed my choices down to a few select Sigs and HKs.
At this point I must mention: I have only been shooting a little over two and half years, and the gun I have trained most extensively with has been an XD (SAO) therefore if I decide to go w/ a TDA type trigger I will already be learning to use a new trigger. I have not been shooting so long that a certain type of trigger is engraved in to my habits. Point is, whatever action I choose I will probably be using that action for a long time, as I am a big believer in consistency of habits for when shtf. This is the same reason my collection will probably begin to revolve around one brand line, so as to streamline controls on all my carry pistols. As a sidenote, that is one of the things I am debating w/ the HKs right now. Do I really want to train myself on the euro mag release, when 90% other pistols use the traditional mag release button?
I have read many people saying the H&K LEM and Sig DAK models are the best thing since sliced bread. But for every person that says they love it, there is another person that says they sold off their gun because they couldn't stand the trigger. Confusing, no?
But, for me, I have not become so accustomed to one type of trigger that I won't be able to use one or the other. I get the impression that a lot of the people that don't like the DAK/LEM trigger just don't like changing their ways, whereas in my case, I am just now learning my ways. In other words, I am more concerned w/ the benefits and negatives of the trigger itself when compared to TDA, rather than not being able to adapt to a new trigger system.
Ilike the idea of a heavy trigger on a TDA when carrying for extra safety to help prevent an AD. However, this heavy first shot/light second shot transition is the same reason I somewhat dislike the TDA system in action.
I like the benefits of the LEM/DAK systems, and I hear when learned correctly they can be employed exceptionally, but it seems that if I go w/ one of these triggers, I am disregarding the reason I looked at TDA guns in the first place (heavy trigger to prevent AD).
I guess what I'm really asking is: is there any difference in safety of a LEM/DAK trigger vs a typical Glock, M&P etc trigger? Obviously w/ a TDA you have the heavy initial pull. Is the LEM/DAK trigger longer on the first pull, or heavier etc. than a Glock/XD, or basically the same?
I can see a lot of benefit to the DAO type of trigger, but I can train myself to shoot a TDA correctly and feel comfortable carrying it, whereas at this point I would not feel comfortable carrying a SAO condition one (or a DAO with with trigger as light and short as a glock, XD, etc).
Did that make sense at all?
Also, I apologize if I got confused on some of the conditions of carry in my post.
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