PSA ALERT! Clean your guns!

[.38 Special]

My guns get an external wipe down with some rust preventative on a rag every time they're used, but I don't see that as a cleaning. I almost never clean my .22's because I'm concerned about the small tolerance between the cleaning rod and the bore, and the potential for damage.

Most of the .22 competitors I knew and shot with rarely or never touched the bores of their guns. At least with decent quality ammunition, the condition of the bore should never really change with use.

 

[ATLDave]

Most of the .22 competitors I knew and shot with rarely or never touched the bores of their guns. At least with decent quality ammunition, the condition of the bore should never really change with use.

No reason to really fool with the bore on something like a 9mm, either. Clean and lube rails frequently (and locking lugs if you have a closely-fit gun). Clean feed ramp and chamber as needed. Detail clean guts of gun as needed. Clean bore approximately never, +/- 20k rounds.

 

[Paco42]

Good, then the next time you see one of your friends, ask them what their attorney advised them of when dealing with a customer or writing a manual. Even you acknowledged that manufacturers avoid making a manual any more complicated than it needs to be.

In the area of products liability, or more specifically the area of “failure to warn,” the general rule is to treat everyone like idiots. That way the idiots are covered and those with sense can figure it out.

My father also taught me a lot. I always took most of what he taught me as a guiding hand rather than gospel. I don’t know when it happened but at some point I learned to think for myself and develop my own opinions. After all, things are different from when my father learn them. I can remember a time when you had to have your oil changed in your car every 1500 miles. These days, I go 7500 without an oil change.

I’m not saying that you shouldn’t clean your gun when it is dirty. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t clean your gun just because you feel like it. All I’m saying is that a modern firearm does not need to be cleaned every time you put 100 rounds through it.

WADR, condescension is generally unbecoming. You seem to think that I need instruction regarding how companies write manuals and the like. Thank you, but no, I don’t.

I shared what I do as an example of what one reasonable person does. You appear to have different practices, and clearly have some different opinions. And that’s fine. But you give the impression that your ways are the best and right ways to do things, and that those who differ are simply wrong; however, the simple fact that you feel your opinions and practices to be best doesn’t make them so. I didn’t claim that my practices were best—but I will defend them as reasonable, defensible, and worthy of consideration. Others, like yourself, may have different practices, themselves also reasonable, defensible, and worthy of consideration. But not worthy of enshrinement as the best. And before you start making claims about “long experience”, and the like, please consider that you have no knowledge of my experience, the content and origins of my knowledge base, and more.

I don’t wish to pursue this any further down this rabbit hole, as it were. Please don’t look for more responses from me along this particular line.

 

[ATLDave]

I think Tony was merely responding to the "appeal to authority" of manuals (and wise fathers). There may be reasons that manuals are written in a particular way other than the advice/instruction being the optimal for the user.

 

[TonyAngel]

WADR, condescension is generally unbecoming. You seem to think that I need instruction regarding how companies write manuals and the like. Thank you, but no, I don’t.

I shared what I do as an example of what one reasonable person does. You appear to have different practices, and clearly have some different opinions. And that’s fine. But you give the impression that your ways are the best and right ways to do things, and that those who differ are simply wrong; however, the simple fact that you feel your opinions and practices to be best doesn’t make them so. I didn’t claim that my practices were best—but I will defend them as reasonable, defensible, and worthy of consideration. Others, like yourself, may have different practices, themselves also reasonable, defensible, and worthy of consideration. But not worthy of enshrinement as the best. And before you start making claims about “long experience”, and the like, please consider that you have no knowledge of my experience, the content and origins of my knowledge base, and more.

I don’t wish to pursue this any further down this rabbit hole, as it were. Please don’t look for more responses from me along this particular line.

I meant no condescension. My response was simply that, a response, in kind.