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Tilos said:
Charter Arms does it now for 9mm,with a patented extractor design.
Modern 45ACP Smith's don't even have a step in the cylinders, no moon clips it won't fire...
At the least CA and RIA revolver cylinders have a step for head spacing and can be fired without moonies.
With a RIA you'll need a stick to poke out the empties though but most will fall out.
jmo
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My Taurus 405 would shoot the 40s without a moonclip. Ejected decently well but could have been better. I wish I had it back and I would bore it to 10mm.
 
My rant? Any fixed sight revolver, American, Italian, whatever, that has a point of impact left or right of point of aim.

I can correct for Impacts a bit low or a bit high, But windage errors suck. And there is no excuse for letting any gun out of the factory that shoots sideways.
 
Why not a 38 spcl single six? Why not a high quality 44 special like the 720? Why not colt or old s&w class bluing as an option on new revolvers? Why won't they make the barrel length I want, in any brand, with the sights I'm looking for?! Am I the ONLY guy that wants a lightweight centerfire revolver with a 3" barrel and adjustable sights?! Sheesh...
 
Tilos said:
Charter Arms does it now for 9mm,with a patented extractor design.
Modern 45ACP Smith's don't even have a step in the cylinders, no moon clips it won't fire...That's my official Rant :uhoh:
At the least CA and RIA revolver cylinders have a step for head spacing and can be fired without moonies.
With a RIA you'll need a stick to poke out the empties though but most will fall out.
jmo
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Other than the Governor, which modern S&W .45 ACP revolvers cannot be fired without moon clips? Yes, without the moon clip they are difficult to eject, but ones like my 22-4 will fire without the clips.
 
It's not a revolver rant but it is a little annoying.
I purchased a Ruger Bisley in .45 a few months ago and right out of the box I can feel a heavy trigger as well as a very heavy hammer.
I just shot it last weekend and realized that you can skip a round if you don't pull the hammer back all the way and then try to pull it back again. It wasn't a problem for me but my wife had this issue. That night I ordered a trigger spring as well as a hammer spring from Power Customs. While i was at it I ordered a free spin pawl for those who miss the ejection port the first time around.
 
Sistema1927 said:
Other than the Governor, which modern S&W .45 ACP revolvers cannot be fired without moon clips? Yes, without the moon clip they are difficult to eject, but ones like my 22-4 will fire without the clips.
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625
Manual says:
""If your Smith &Wesson revolver is chambered to accept a rimless cartridge such as 45 ACP or 38 Super, a "moon clip" must be used to ensure proper head spacing and extraction of the cartridge.""
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Tilos said:
625
Manual says:
""If your Smith &Wesson revolver is chambered to accept a rimless cartridge such as 45 ACP or 38 Super, a "moon clip" must be used to ensure proper head spacing and extraction of the cartridge.""
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Lots and lots of folks have tried out their 625s without moon clips, and they fire. Extract? That's another story.
 
Sistema1927 said:
Lots and lots of folks have tried out their 625s without moon clips, and they fire. Extract? That's another story.
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So why question me so you can challenge my answer with "Lots and lots of folks"...
My personal experience is it hasn't worked for me/my gun and the manual says it won't.
Think what you want,
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My last response on this subject,
 
A quick Google search returns information from this forum and several others describing the experience of .45 ACP 625 owners who have been able to successfully fire their revolvers without benefit of moon clips. That is also what I have personally witnessed (I don't own a 625, but as I stated earlier, a 22-4). I am sure that there are also folks who have run into what you have experienced, and it might be that differences in tolerances of both revolvers and ammunition may be the cause. But, by and large, "lots and lots" of folks have had the opposite experience.

This is a discussion forum, and questions and challenges back and forth are part of the norm, and perfectly acceptable unless one engages in ad hominems, insults, or other undesirable behavior.

I am sorry that your ox was gored, and as a result you have chosen not to continue to participate.
 
I'm done with modern S&W revolvers. I've purchased 2 of them in the past two years and both of them had to go back to the factory right out of the box, one twice.
 
I'm mad that well built, older revolvers are becoming my new addiction. I mean it's not easy tracking them down and haggling a decent price. All while wasting gas to drive around and meet new people in far off gun stores. Looking for my new conquest.
 
One more, S&W needs to make a 6-shot 10mm L-frame, round butt and offer both fixed sight version and an adjustable sight version. 3, 4, 5 and 6.5 inch barrels lengths.
 
gosh darn Ruger, they've been in business since 1949 and waited until 2015 to make a LCR .327!!!
 
My rant:

There are no US made DA revolvers that maintain similar quality to those of Freedom Arms SA revolvers. I work plenty, and am lucky to have a well paying job, I don't mind paying for quality within reason.

Revolver manufacturers are slow to embrace the advent of miniaturized ruggedized red dot sights like the Trijicon RMR, Holosun, and Aimpoing ACRO. The ACRO in particular has a mounting pattern that screams out for an integrated mount on a revolver top strap. The future is now, and red dot sights make hitting what you want to shoot at much much easier particularly as distances increase, or target contrast with the background is low. Revolvers tend to be quite accurate, so why do we still need to jump through our own butts to get an optic on top of a revolver that doesn't involve scope mounts and tinkering?

Why don't we have options for "hard use" or "field" guns to be salt bath nitrided from the factory? I know there are a few out there, but come on..... get with the program manufacturers for those that use their guns it's a great surface conversion process that prevents corrosion and increases hardness reducing wear and generally improving function.
 
Coal Dragger said:
My rant:

There are no US made DA revolvers that maintain similar quality to those of Freedom Arms SA revolvers. I work plenty, and am lucky to have a well paying job, I don't mind paying for quality within reason.

Revolver manufacturers are slow to embrace the advent of miniaturized ruggedized red dot sights like the Trijicon RMR, Holosun, and Aimpoing ACRO. The ACRO in particular has a mounting pattern that screams out for an integrated mount on a revolver top strap. The future is now, and red dot sights make hitting what you want to shoot at much much easier particularly as distances increase, or target contrast with the background is low. Revolvers tend to be quite accurate, so why do we still need to jump through our own butts to get an optic on top of a revolver that doesn't involve scope mounts and tinkering?

Why don't we have options for "hard use" or "field" guns to be salt bath nitrided from the factory? I know there are a few out there, but come on..... get with the program manufacturers for those that use their guns it's a great surface conversion process that prevents corrosion and increases hardness reducing wear and generally improving function.
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I plan on hunting with my SW 629 with open sights as it is a challenge and I would never add a sight like that to a revolver.

I do see where the new electronic sights are popular but not sure if the companies see enough of a market for them in conjunction with the revolver market vs. semi-auto market.
 
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