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Side locks also usually have a side plate which allows access to the action. The box lock is fully contained inside of the stock.
There are box locks with false side plates to resemble a side lock. They are just a design of the newer style lock impersonating the older classic style.
 
P-95, what you refer to as "on the rise" is known, in ballistic terms, as Maxium Ordinate which is defined as "the maxium rise of the bullet path over the line of sight at a given sight-in distance."
 
Thx Bear .... learning every day .. hope it never stops!:)

That diag was done using that term IIRC cos it was how the dude asked about it originally. Never bothered to check my terminology any deeper back then.
 
How'sabout definitions of a sight picture, re: iron sights, proper vs. improper, preferably with graphic representations?

Define flash sight picture.

Explain different sight types, i.e. peep, buckhorn, Patridge, ghost ring, night sights, etc., once again with helpful graphics.

The "Motivations of those who would disarm us." thread seems a likely candidate for reference.

A section on Liberal Media Bias.

A section on Liberal Education Bias in schools and universities.

Has anyone mentioned the Parable of the Sheep?

A section on No-knock warrants, and the erosion of accountability at the LE/citizen interface, specifically the immunity of policy setters vs. policy enforcers.

list/define the various sprts of Competitions and gun-games people play, with intent to offer up positive uses for guns beyond the most drastic. CAS, PPC, IPSC, Sillhouette, Skeetrap, reference favorite plinking/reactive targets also.

That's a good start. I may have other stuff later. :)
 
HRG ..... wow some good questions there! I'll dip out on the politico ones .. others can better field those than me but .. the ones re sights etc ..... I will put together some small diags later and post them ... in the hopes that they might assist.

Your mention re ''flash sight picture'' ...... I am making an assumption on that .... that you refer to the sight picture aquired in a small fraction of time ...... maybe a draw, ''flash'' and shoot. Is this what you mean.?

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Quick edit here to add ........ regarding sight types and sighting errors .. with open (iron) sights ..... there is a lot of overlap and I think this is probably best dealt with all together. I have done some small diagrams to hopefully help and think perhaps I'll post those in a separate thread, and add a link here once done.

Oh ... yeah .... Parable of the Sheep ... have a copy and will post .. tho it's been posted a few times but might be useful to archive it from here.
 
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The Parable of the Sheep

Not so long ago and in a pasture too uncomfortably close to here, a flock of
sheep lived and grazed. They were protected by a dog, who answered to the
master, but despite his best efforts from time to time a nearby pack of
wolves would prey upon the flock.

One day a group of sheep, bolder than the rest, met to discuss their
dilemma. 'Our dog is good, and vigilant, but he is one and the wolves are
many. The wolves he catches are not always killed, and the master judges and
releases many to prey again upon us, for no reason we can understand.
What can we do? We are sheep, but we do not wish to be food, too!'

One sheep spoke up, saying 'It is his teeth and claws that make the wolf so
terrible to us. It is his nature to prey, and he would find any way to do it,
but it is the tools he wields that make it possible. If we had such teeth, we
could fight back, and stop this savagery.' The other sheep clamored in
agreement, and they went together to the old bones of the dead wolves heaped
in the corner of the pasture, and gathered fang and claw and made them
into weapons.

That night, when the wolves came, the newly armed sheep sprang up with their
weapons and struck at them, crying, "Be Gone!" We are not food!' and drove
off the wolves, who were astonished. When did sheep become so bold and so
dangerous to wolves? When did sheep grow teeth?

It was unthinkable!

The next day, flush with victory and waving their weapons, they approached
the flock to pronounce their discovery. But as they drew nigh, the flock
huddled together and cried out, 'Baaaaaaaadddd! Baaaaaddd things!

You have bad things! We are afraid! You are not sheep!'

The brave sheep stopped, amazed. 'But we are your brethren!' they cried. 'We
are still sheep, but we do not wish to be food. See, our new teeth and claws
protect us and have saved us from slaughter. They do not make us into wolves,
they make us equal to the wolves, and safe from their viciousness!'

'Baaaaaaad!' cried the flock, 'the things are bad and will pervert you, and
we fear them. You cannot bring them into the flock!' So the armed sheep
resolved to conceal their weapons, for although they had no desire to panic
the flock, they wished to remain in the fold. But they would not return to
those nights of terror, waiting for the wolves to come.

In time, the wolves attacked less often and sought easier prey, for they had
no stomach for fighting sheep who possessed tooth and claw even as they did.
Not knowing which sheep had fangs and which did not, they came to leave sheep
out of their diet almost completely except for the occasional raid, from
which more than one wolf did not return.

Then came the day when, as the flock grazed beside the stream, one sheep's
weapon slipped from the folds of her fleece, and the flock cried out in
terror again, 'Baaaaaad! You still possess these evil things! We must ban you
from our presence!'

And so they did. The great chief sheep and his council, encouraged by the
words of their advisors, placed signs and totems at the edges of the pasture
forbidding the presence of hidden weapons there. The armed sheep protested
before the council, saying, 'It is our pasture, too, and we have never harmed
you! When can you say we have caused you hurt? It is the wolves, not we, who
prey upon you. We are still sheep, but we are not food!'

But the flock drowned them out with cries of 'Baaaaaaddd! We will not hear
your clever words! You and your things are evil and will harm us!'

Saddened by this rejection, the armed sheep moved off and spent their days
on the edges of the flock, trying from time to time to speak with their
brethren to convince them of the wisdom of having such teeth, but meeting
with little success. They found it hard to talk to those who, upon hearing
their words, would roll back their eyes and flee, crying 'Baaaaddd! Bad
things!'

That night, the wolves happened upon the sheep's totems and signs, and
said, 'Truly, these sheep are fools! They have told us they have no teeth!
Brothers, let us feed!' And they set upon the flock, and horrible was the
carnage in the midst of the fold. The dog fought like a demon, and often
seemed to be in two places at once, but even he could not halt the
slaughter.

It was only when the other sheep arrived with their weapons that the wolves
fled, only to remain on the edge of the pasture and wait for the next time
they could prey, for if the sheep were so foolish once, they would be so
again. This they did, and do still.

In the morning, the armed sheep spoke to the flock, and said, 'See? If the
wolves know you have no teeth, they will fall upon you. Why be prey? To be a
sheep does not mean to be food for wolves!' But the flock cried out, more
feebly for their voices were fewer, though with no less terror, 'Baaaaaaaad!
These things are bad! If they were banished, the wolves would not harm us!
Baaaaaaad!'

So they resolved to retain their weapons, but to conceal them from the
flock; to endure their fear and loathing, and even to protect their brethren
if the need arose, until the day the flock learned to understand that as long
as there were wolves in the night, sheep would need teeth to repel them.

They would still be sheep, but they would not be food!
 
What do you think about...

IN reference to the thread in Shotguns: "Shotty a little TOO short! "
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=826257#post826257

Similar threads and questions as well...

Would anyone have the time and inclination to show the proper way to measure Barrels?

Not just shotguns, include handguns and rifles. Part of the "responsible ownership" in Rules Of Conduct got me to thinking, we have new folks that may not be aware of [yet] some legalites. Also some hunting regulations stipulate a minimum bbl for handgun hunting, be it semi or revolver.

Might be good to have as a visual reference to keep some folks out of trouble.

Not a bad idea to show fence sitters or those against us what the "HighRoad" means either. ;)

Chris...anyone?

Thanks
Steve
 
Steve .. yeah, basically agree ... thing is managing to show it well pictorially. I will give some though tho ... but unfortunately have no ''close to legal'' length guns ... they are all boringly legal!

Description does in part cover it I'd think .. in as much as, it is not too hard for someone to aquire a length of dowel rod .. and paint that with whatever reference length markings they might need.

The main thing that needs hammered home is ...

1] Unload weapon .... close bolt ...... check again for clear ... again close bolt .... repeat until 300% sure!

2] Holding gun vertically, drop aforementioned dowel rod down barrel until it is obvious it is sitting right on the bolt face .. do NOT stand over muzzle . only to one side, and still ensure muzzle points safe.

3] Then eye across muzzle's lowest point and interpret results.

I'll think on it re any pics .. in case they help.
 
Why do we ride The High Road?

I an effort to define what we're about, and why it is we claim to have the Moral High Ground right in the name of our forum so as to dispel accusations of hypocrisy and hubris, I went and rooted up this thread. We could condense it, but there's some great stuff in this one, so maybe that's unneccessary.

Why do you come to TheHighRoad?

How can we claim to ride The High Road? It's actually quite simple: we have very high self-imposed standards of behavior, with respect to ourselves as well as society in general. This involves a lot of highbrow, three-dollar words that helpd to define what I like to think of as nobility of spirit:

Honesty.

Integrity.

Civility.

Respect.

Accountability.

Responsibility.

These are a set of qualities, along with simple Good Manners, that members here embody in their thinking and worldview by conscious choice.

Knowing that you've chosen to lead your life by such standards gives one the confidence to stand squarely at the top and lead by example, in a position that can easily withstand the moral onslaughts of a complicated world without fear of failing to measure up. Getting more of society to think this way would better all of us, both as individuals and a society.

That's how I look at The High Road. I like to think a lot of my fellow HighRiders would agree. That's why I keep coming back.

It also helps me to look in the mirror. The strongest judge one can face is one's-self...


The Guy in the Glass

When you get what you want in your struggle for pelf*,
And the world makes you King for a day,
Then go to the mirror and look at yourself,
And see what that guy has to say.

For it isn't your Father, or Mother, or Wife,
Who judgement upon you must pass.
The feller whose verdict counts most in your life
Is the guy staring back from the glass.

He's the feller to please, never mind all the rest,
For he's with you clear up to the end,
And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test
If the guy in the glass is your friend.

You may be like Jack Horner and "chisel" a plum,
And think you're a wonderful guy,
But the man in the glass says you're only a bum
If you can't look him straight in the eye.

You can fool the whole world down the pathway of years,
And get pats on the back as you pass,
But your final reward will be heartaches and tears
If you've cheated the guy in the glass.

by Dale Winbrow, (c) 1934
* 'pelf' is a derogatory or jocular word for money or wealth (Oxford Dictionary)

From the book "Swamp cabbage and angel wings".
 
How about:

Accuracy: Consistency in results

Precision: Results very close to perfect

This means, if you always hit within 1/2" of a spot on the 7 ring, your rifle is accurate, but if you always hit within 1/2" of the bullseye, your rifle is precise AND accurate.
 
Greeting's All-

Maybe this is a little off course, but with the
suggestion of Mal H; I would like to know if
it would be possible to create a separate
section to discuss firearms material such
as books, magazines, and other types of
printed material? During this time, seems
like it would be contributing to the library.

Respectfully,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
 
MaxKnight:
you said
Accuracy: Consistency in results

Precision: Results very close to perfect
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i respectfully differ

Accuracy is putting it where you want
Precision is putting it there again :D

tho technically accuracy is defined as
"degree of conformity of a measure to a standard or a true value"
(that is, the balance is true and one pound is one pound)

and precision as
"the degree of refinement with which an operation is performed
or the degree to which a measurement is repeated or repeatable"
(that is, the balance measures one pound is one pound time after time)


also, FWIW,

poor is the technician who blames his equipment

beware he who needs a specific tool to do a general job
 
This may have been posted already, but could we get a definition of "Minute of Angle" put up some where? I keep seeing people post that they have a gun that will shoot "X minutes of angle at 100 yards. Am I not correct in saying that X minutes of angle will be X minutes of angle whether it's at 100 yards or 300 yards or even 1000 yards?
 
The graph is most useful reference ......

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But here is some text that can accompany it ...
The minute of arc is a measurement of angle or arc, equal to one sixtieth (1/60) of one degree. Since one degree is defined as one three hundred and sixtieth (1/360) of a circle, 1 MOA is 1/21600 of the amount of arc in a closed circle, or 10800*pi radians. Its usage is limited to those fields which require a handy unit for the expression of very small amounts of arc.

This unit is commonly found in the firearms industry and literature, particularly that concerning high-powered rifles. It is popular because 1 MOA almost exactly subtends one inch at 100 yards, a traditional distance on target ranges. A shooter can easily readjust his or her rifle scope simply by measuring the distance in inches the bullet hole is from the desired impact point, and adjusting the scope that many MOA in the opposite direction. Most target scopes designed for long distances are adjustable in quarter (1/4) or eighth (1/8) MOA 'clicks.' One eighth MOA is equal to approximately an eighth of an inch at 100 yards or one inch at 800 yards.

Sometimes, a firearm will be 'measured' in MOA. This simply means that under ideal conditions, the gun is capable of repeatedly producing a group of shots that fit into a circle, the diameter of which can be subtended by that amount of arc. (E.g.: a "1 MOA rifle" should be capable, under ideal conditions and when locked into a vise, of shooting a 1-inch group at 100 yards.) However, ideal performance in a ballistics lab is often very different from real-world results.
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stickjockey, the angle between the bore axis and the initial path of the bullet would result in 1MOA @100m being the same as 1MOA@1000m.

But there are all sorts of other considerations: drag, slowing rotation = less stabilization, and the obvious one... greater angular distance between the direction of the bullet's axis and its direction of travel. The bullet eventually points substantally higher than its direction of movement due to rotation/gyroscopic stabilization.

The slower the bullet's moving, the more off-axis it travels, and the slower it spins, the more moving through the same amount of air can mess up the trajectory.
 
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