Rahm proposes Illinois Handgun Registration!

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You guys, if you leave your state, it will only tell the liberals that they have won, and they can and will do it in any other state following that. Il. is a lot like WA. Pretty much the entire state is con. except liberal seattle and tac.
 
You guys, if you leave your state, it will only tell the liberals that they have won, and they can and will do it in any other state following that.
And if you stay in Illinois that tells the thugs running that state that you LIKE it the way it is. Of course if you stay, especially in Chicago, you probably DO.

This isn't about "liberal" and "conservative" as normal people understand the terms. This is about corrupt, authoritarian kleptocracy on a third world level.

Rahm Emmanuel isn't a "liberal". He's Vladimir Putin by way of Sheldon from "Big Bang Theory". His predecessor, Daley, was Bashar al Assad by way of Otis the Drunk from "The Andy Griffith Show".

You aren't going to change Illinois without changing Chicago. You aren't going to change Chicago short of multiple SCOTUS decisions or armed external force, a la the forced dismantling of Jim Crow in the South.
 
Deanimator, you have a good read on it. Richie Daley and his kind are the worst of hypocrites. I shoot skeet in Morris and the old timers down there remember Richie coming down to hunt and talking about his gun collection in the 60s and 70s. He probably keeps it in his Michigan home,...remember, where his son was playing with his shotgun at a high school beer party and got arrested? Daley is also insisting on a CPD security detail for life (so he really doesn't need a gun in Chicago). I also believe Chicago is one of the only cities in the U.S. that gives a detail to the former mayor.

I love the town, but it's a shadow of what it could be. My folks split in the 60's, my mom, brother and I moved in to subsidized housing in Newtown for a few years, then Rogers Park. I was born in Marquette Park. There are so many people in Chicago that are good people, but they don't get the point of the 2A. I have good friends who complain that the NRA isn't about rifles, then stare at me as if I'm insane when I cite the real reason for handguns. A reason is self-defense against criminals. My main reason, is the retention of power by the people.

Every crappy thing that has been done to people in Germany, China, Russia, Cambodia....has been done to populations stripped of their rights by government. Basically, if you believe in human nature and agree that history is real, you're nuts to oppose private gun ownership! It kills me that people formerly subjugated (Polish, African, Jews, Chinese, Greeks, Gays, handicapped) could possibly support gun control! Jews held off the Nazis for days and weeks passing a few guns from window to window (amazing what you can do when somebody is going to kill you, your kids, and your ethnic heritage)!

The degree of trust placed in government, meaning people, meaning human nature (whoch many liberals think can be changed) is insane!

Sorry for "soapboxing," my friend. This stuff makes me hopping mad!
 
I am sorry, but I see a lot of extremely ignorant comments being made here. First of all, just because Illinois gun laws stink, it doesn't mean that firearms are all there are to life, or living here for that matter. Apart from the firearms issues, and the fairly crappy midwestern winters, I love it here. The fact that the Illinois legislature stinks is for the most part, as others have said, due to the "state" of Chicago. And the "reason" those people are in office, is mainly due to the main population of Chicago being the kind who favor the anti-gun democratic party who love to give handouts to the people who feel they don't need to work hard for a living in order to survive. Once again, as others have stated, most of Illinois lawmakers and law enforcement community are not nearly as opposed to firearms as the rest of the country would think. And remember this as well..... one of the very same anti-gun lawmakers that was voted into office here in Illinois was also voted into the presidency....by you guessed it, the rest of the country.
 
And remember this as well..... one of the very same anti-gun lawmakers that was voted into office here in Illinois was also voted into the presidency....by you guessed it, the rest of the country.

Don't rub it in!:fire::fire:

A lot of places may be nice places to live but have cr@ppy laws. There's nothing "ignorant" about ranting about that, we're just ranting about the cr@ppy laws.
And yeah, if Obamster had the opprtunity to pass gun laws I have no doubt he'd turn this otherwise idyllic country into another Soviet Union. :neener:

We'll see if he gets the opprtunity this November.:barf::barf::barf:
 
I guess this foul mouthed so and so figures he was elected governor or king of the republik of IL.
Guys, we gotta send in the bucks, write and call our congressmen (both IL and national) and keep guys like Rahm, Holder, Barry O, George Soros, and the rest of the flaming liberals from running us and our rights into the ground.
 
So what happens if Rahm gets his way and registation passes. How exactly will that make the streets safer?
 
Ah, Illinois...the home of Mayor Daley(s), Dan Rostenkowski, Rod Blagojevich, and (on and on and on....)

So mayors are now directing statewide policy in our wonderful republic. Maybe governors should start filling potholes to return the favor.

The GOOD news for Chicagoans is that the violent crime rate has gone down in their city now that they're at least allowed to OWN handguns.
 
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I would imagine, since you can carry an unloaded gun, with ammo separate, in a specific gun container, through IL currently, that would remain the case.

Um, no. You can transport that way, but those aren't our requirements.

Unloaded and in a case is our only transport requirement. You can have (and I transport this way) loaded mags in the same case/container with the weapon, you just can't have it loaded. And as of this past year and the Diggins case (see here: http://www.state.il.us/court/opinions/supremecourt/2009/october/106367.pdf) , we can transport in a center console the same way.

Just thought that needed to be cleared up...


Now, about this whole "just move away already" thing some of you are suggesting. Really? I mean, really? Just give up, roll over, quit the fight, and move away? How disappointing; I'd expected better from you guys, than to back down from a fight.

The land we live on has been in my wife's family for 5 generations (and 6, if you count my 2 girls), and someone with her Dad's last name has farmed this dirt since before the Civil War. And you want us to pack up and move, just give it all up and go away? Seriously? I don't know about some of you guys, but there are some things to me that are still worth fighting for.
 
Same here. Our land has been ours for well over 100 years. The house I live in has been here for most of that. I really don't think that people who grow up i town, moving whenever they have a reason, can understand tradition like that. I too plan to stay to fight. I invite any of you in IL to attend IGOLD at the state capital March 7th, to help fight.
 
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Do any of you guys live in Illinois? If so, please make it a place I would actually enjoy visiting. My inlaws live just outside of Joilett on a hobby farm. All I want to do is plink away, but I can't because your laws are so flat out retarded.
 
They should be registered. For free.

Why should you tell the government that you purchased something. Registration is one step closer to taxation and confiscation.
 
Why do you folks of Illinois keep voting in socialists scum like this?
Living, breathing, registered voters have not decided a Chicago election (and probably few Illinois elections) in decades...and that will not change any time soon.
In my three years of living in that cess-pit I saw more examples of institutional corruption at every level than I had seen in the previous ~45 years of living around this Country. I left there in 2004, never to return.
 
"Why should you tell the government that you purchased something?"

Everytime I buy a firearm in my state my name, date of purchase, serial number, caliber, make model and barrel length of the firearm is approved by and reported to the state police.

Is this not the case everywhere? If not, it should be. I don't want criminals buying guns, and I want stolen guns and illegally used guns off the streets.
 
"Why should you tell the government that you purchased something?"

Everytime I buy a firearm in my state my name, date of purchase, serial number, caliber, make model and barrel length of the firearm is approved by and reported to the state police.

Is this not the case everywhere? If not, it should be. I don't want criminals buying guns, and I want stolen guns and illegally used guns off the streets.

No it shouldn't be. Period. End of story.

Just because you have become numb to being tracked in your every purchase doesn't mean it is constitutional and certainly doesn't mean the rest of us should be subjected to it also. and your comment about criminals buying guns goes right back to the "it's already illegal so just enforce current laws" argument.
 
Everytime I buy a firearm in my state my name, date of purchase, serial number, caliber, make model and barrel length of the firearm is approved by and reported to the state police.

Is this not the case everywhere? If not, it should be. I don't want criminals buying guns, and I want stolen guns and illegally used guns off the streets.

No, it's not done here. Purchasing a gun from a dealer will require a background check and the information recorded on the NICS form is kept in a bound book at the dealer. Private sales do not require a background check.

I'm still unsure how registration will keep criminals from buying, stealing, and using guns off the street. So I steal your registered firearm. Big deal, I can still use it in a crime or sell it to some other criminal even though its registered.
 
I'm with B&B. If they know what you own, they can track it for bad purposes. I can't imagine many crimes get solved by tracing stolen guns. If they DID get solved that way, I'd say it's worth the risk. I don't trust "them" and it's my right, not a privelege granted by laws, but a God-given right. Most states don't have this, AND they have concealed carry....AND no rampant crime waves.
 
I think Mayor Daley's illegal destruction of the airport back in '03 was proof enough of his longing to run the city like a king. Now that they have changed mayors, nothing has changed.
 
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