range report, finally :)

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...I observed that the regular people (i.e. not Hickok45) all took considerably longer to get back on target between shots with the .357...
There's more recoil so the muzzle tends to rise more. It takes more time to get it back on target no matter how good you are. A strong and accomplished person can get a .357Mag back on target faster than someone who isn't as strong or as skilled, but it's going to slow them down compared to a lighter-recoiling caliber.

[In My Opinion]A premium .38Sp +P load will provide you with adequate "oomph" to do the job. You'd be better served developing proficiency than working to step up to .357Mag at this point.[/In My Opinion]
 
olns, your progress is amazing. you must be dancing with fred astaire!

the reason i asked you about the target bull is to find out if you were concentrating on the target, or your front sight. to attain your "one ragged hole" goal, you must concentrate on the front sight when the gun goes off. it must be perfectly centered (as best you can) in the rear sight.

concentrating on the front sight means you won't be concentrating on the target bull. which is ok because your mind will keep it aligned with the bull anyway. what i would suggest is a smaller bull. a small circle in the center of a blank piece of paper makes an excellent target for "one ragged hole".

along with a lot of dry fire practice, you are well on your way to your goal.

luck,

murf
Not Fred Astaire but a very knowledgable person is giving me excellent long-distance advice. :)

Did not realize your question was differentiating between the sight and the target. Following advice I was trying to focus on the front sight and keep focusing on it until the shot got to the target. Parenthetically but related, this trip I discovered I really need tritium sights, my range is indoors and previous visits were during the daytime when I guess some light got in through the windows, this time it was nighttime and it was very difficult to see the sights.
 
There's more recoil so the muzzle tends to rise more. It takes more time to get it back on target no matter how good you are. A strong and accomplished person can get a .357Mag back on target faster than someone who isn't as strong or as skilled, but it's going to slow them down compared to a lighter-recoiling caliber.

[In My Opinion]A premium .38Sp +P load will provide you with adequate "oomph" to do the job. You'd be better served developing proficiency than working to step up to .357Mag at this point.[/In My Opinion]

I agree completely, that's what I was trying to say in response to the question as to which caliber I was using. I haven't even tried the +P flavor yet... don't know if they have range ammo in that, the regular .38 special they sell is 130 grains, for SD I selected Hornady Critical Defense 110 grain but have not yet tried shooting it, which obviously I need to do (among other things) before "going live" with my home defense plan... hopefully next time I go to the range I'll have more time and will be able to do that.
 
Excellent job with that nice pistol.
The 686 is a good gun for concealed carry and is also popular for IDPA if you ever want to try that.
 
old lady new shooter said:
From what I've gathered IDPA seems like it would be fun.

It is fun, and takes your shooting and gun handling skills to a new level. The thing is, with a revolver, you can only load and shoot 6 rounds, so you'd be handicapped with a 7-shot 686+. The possible and eventual itch to shoot a match (and more speedloader options) is precisely the reason I suggest the 6-shot over the 7-shot when asked which 686 to buy.

old lady new shooter said:
Following advice I was trying to focus on the front sight and keep focusing on it until the shot got to the target.

Yes, that's good advice. Matter of fact, I recommend focusing on the front sight during the entire string. Peeking at the target between shots is an accuracy killer. Execute every shot well and the target will take care of itself. Check it when you're done shooting the string.

Good shooting. Keep it up!
 
olns,

you will not shoot "one ragged hole" with tritium sights. the sight picture is too coarse for the precise sight alignment required to put em all in one hole. the target sights on that 686 will get you to that goal. idpa is a different story.

i was wondering when mrborland would chime in here. he is the resident revolver guru.

murf
 
Peeking at the target between shots is an accuracy killer. Execute every shot well and the target will take care of itself. Check it when you're done shooting the string.
Good advice. You can shoot OR you can score your target. You can't do both at the same time if you want to do either one well.
 
Very well done, my lady. I shot some yesterday, handguns, and did not do as well as you and I've coexisted with guns my whole life. You're a natural.
 
Dear old lady new shooter,

With targets looking like yours, you can be my body guard any day.
Congrats on a very good gun & GREAT shooting.

I wish I could find a lady-friend who likes to go to the range! ;)
 
Keep up the GREAT shooting. I start all my students at 5 yards. When they can shoot like you have I more them back to 10 and 15 yards.

Shoot slow and make every shot count. If you want to go faster it will come without you noticing it.

Good Luck and Good Shooting.:)
 
finally replying to remaining comments

Just want to thank all the additional people who posted comments and also respond to a few of the points raised, even though several weeks have elapsed, hope everyone forgives me for not being more prompt.

MrBorland:
[IDPA] is fun, and takes your shooting and gun handling skills to a new level. The thing is, with a revolver, you can only load and shoot 6 rounds, so you'd be handicapped with a 7-shot 686+. The possible and eventual itch to shoot a match (and more speedloader options) is precisely the reason I suggest the 6-shot over the 7-shot when asked which 686 to buy.
Well... my main motivation in learning to shoot and acquiring a gun is to be able to defend myself, so the ability to have 7 shots instead of 6 was actually a significant factor in my choice. 5-Star makes a very nice speedloader for it, it was recommended here, I think by strambo. If and when I get to the point where I want to try IDPA I could always get a 6-shot one.
I recommend focusing on the front sight during the entire string.
I tried this at the range last week, worked very well and also helped me go faster, thanks very much for the tip. :)

murf:
you will not shoot "one ragged hole" with tritium sights. the sight picture is too coarse for the precise sight alignment required to put em all in one hole. the target sights on that 686 will get you to that goal.

First I have to be able to SEE the sight picture. In less than bright light I can't even see that the front sight is red, and I don't see any space between the sides of the front sight and the rear sights. I understand it's pretty common to need more and more light to see as we get older.

MartinS:
Thank you for the compliment but I don't think I'm a "natural", although I guess I have two things going for me: a) I'm very good at concentrating (which is good for shooting, but unfortunately not very good for situational awareness); and b) some years back I was seriously into weightlifting, so I learned how to feel what my body's doing.

Secondly, those targets were not shot going BANG BANG BANG, but rather ................BANG ...........BANG ........BANG...

Finally, I think it might be an advantage NOT to have grown up around guns -- I imagine a person (especially of the male persuasion) who grows up around guns assumes shooting well will be easy because he sees everyone around him shooting, i.e. he expects to pick up a gun and shoot bullseyes immediately... Myself, I've been a city girl all my life, and in the time and place where I grew up boys maybe had a cap gun but that was about it, nobody had real guns, and girls didn't even have water pistols, so I am real clear that I'm starting from scratch, which means that because I'm very motivated to learn this I'm working somewhat compulsively at understanding what I'm supposed to be doing and then trying to do whatever that is.
 
old lady new shooter said:
Secondly, those targets were not shot going BANG BANG BANG, but rather ................BANG ...........BANG ........BANG...

Exactly as it should be. As you get the fundamentals of shooting down, and they become more muscle memory than deliberate actions, speed will come naturally. When you notice that happening, that's the time to start deliberately trying to shoot faster.

You're doing good.
 
I haven't read all of this thread, but based on the targets at the beginning, I shore don't want to make you mad..

That's some purty durn fair shootin'. Keep it up.
 
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