Rate Glock 23 please.

[Black Butte]

Some people want the impossible. For example, a post will criticize the G23 for having too much recoil while simultaneously criticizing it for being too heavy for carry.

News Flash! Unless you put a muzzle break on the thing, you're not going to get low recoil on a .40S&W polymer compact that's light enough not to get bashed for being too heavy to carry. It's like wanting a $10K gold nugget that only weighs two ounces in your pocket. Unless Michelangelo personally engraved the thing, it's not going to happen.

 

[rbernie]

I am a big fan of the compact Glock Gen4's - with the +4 beavertail grip insert, they fit me perfectly. In general, I find them easy to carry, with a good balance of capacity vs. size. However, I find the G23 recoil to be excessive compared to other (non-polymer) 40S&W choices in my safe, especially using light/fast loads. Truth be told, my Ruger SR40C is actually less snappy to shoot (side by side, same load) than my G23. I have found that the G23 (and the G22) seem to feel more comfortable to me when shooting heavy/slow loads (180gr) and feel most uncontrolled when shooting light/fast stuff (135gr-155gr).

I carry and practice with a G19, because I like the compact Glock package but prefer the recoil of the G19 over that of the G23.

 

[hentown]

Although I don't/won't ever own a .40, I do shoot a lot of rounds through my Glocks. I'd have to assume that the G23 works well, just like any other Glock. Other than the .40s, the only Glocks that I have no use for would be the G36s.

 

[scaatylobo]

15 years +

I got one on a 'work' paper for the job ,and I have not looked back yet.

I retired and now carry that pistol 95% of the time.

It is accurate,reliable = what else do you need.

I own a few others that are smaller,BUT this is what I want to be wearing if heaven forbid I am in a SHTF scenario .

Like a mall attack etc.

 

[RBid]

I've fired and extensively handled most modern service pistols. Ruger SR, Springfield XD/XDm, S&W M&P, Walther P99 and PPQ, Sig, HK... and so on.

At 1.18", it's fatter than a single stack subcompact. As a 21oz pistol chambered in .40, it has more snap than some full size service pistols. It your goal is to find the smallest, flattest pistol, look elsewhere. If you're picking a service pistol for OC service use, look elsewhere.

If you're looking for something that's reliable, easier to conceal than just about every other service pistol, has the capacity of a full size, and is easy to be accurate with... You may find as good, but you probably won't find better.

Having owned both, I'll say that the Gen 3 was good, but the Gen 4 is strictly better. It soaks up snap better , has a better mag release, has a better grip texture for wet hands, and fits a variety of hand sizes.

My EDC is a 19 Gen 4, but if I could only own one handgun, it would be my 23 Gen 4.

 

[gym]

Obviously the more you have to compare it to the more accurate the survey will be. Assuming the person is a logical knowledgeable person.
It took me a while to understand why my friend would outshoot me with his G19, until I swapped guns with him. There was a big difference between the two, "at least to me". I, "after many years with Glocks, settled on the 26 and 30. They seem to do everything well. The 23 and 27, were never as accurate in my hands as the 26 & 19, or the 21 & 30. But a good all around gun. Same with the EMP, or CS- S&W chief special. Or M&P. But I shoot the 45, or 38, as well as the 9. So obviously the 40 is just not for me.
That was when I was in my 40's, not much has changed in 20 yrs, except my hand hurts longer.

 

[leadcounsel]

5 stars.
Reliable, accurate, light, durable, affordable gun and mags.

I concede they are not necessarily the most ergonomic or pretty. But I don't care about that. It's not a beauty contest. I want a simple easy to use tool that will work.

There are other 4 and 5 star guns, including CZ, Sig, 1911, Ruger P series, S&W M&P and 3rd gen, XD... But I chose Glock most of the time.

 

[DIXIEDOG]

The G23 is one of my favorite .40 autos....I do prefer the G27 though myself. Shoots every bit as accurate, is easily manageable on recoil and is easier to conceal.

 

[MikePaiN]

4 stars....had to subtract one for looks hehehhe

The G23 is my go to gun for everything. I carry it pretty much all the time, it is in the night stand for HD and it gets the most range time.

 

[SDGlock23]

The G23 was my first Glock when I was old enough to buy one. I've had one around always since then, and currently it's a Gen4 version. It's the go anywhere, do anything handgun really. I never found the recoil to be bothersome, but maybe it's because I cut my teeth on the G23.

It's got a wide range of uses, from plinking/gaming loads that are light, to standard personal defense ammo and there's an abundance of that stuff, and very effective too. It's even got the guts to serve as a woods gun for deer or hogs that wonder in within handgun range (up to around 50yds), load it up with a good 155-180gr JHP (factory or better yet a warm handload), it will do the job handily.. I'm not saying it excels as a hunting tool (what pistol can say that?), but it can serve that purpose if you get the opportunity.

If I could only have one Glock, or one gun in general, it would be the G23.

 

[willypete]

As is the case with most of your multitude of posts/polls, you could have easily found all of this information on your own.

Honestly, if you have that much time, why not do some research?

Really.

I have noticed this as well. Attempting to generate discussion is the point of having a forum. However, rehashing topics that have been beaten to death is pointless. If your question can easily be answered by using Google or the search function of this forum, you shouldn't be asking it.

 

[leadcounsel]

I have noticed this as well. Attempting to generate discussion is the point of having a forum. However, rehashing topics that have been beaten to death is pointless. If your question can easily be answered by using Google or the search function of this forum, you shouldn't be asking it.

I disagree. New members may NOT have had these conversations and may want to be a part of the FORUM. That's different than just reading others opinions because they can contribute. And 30 people have contributed and many more have viewed this.

If this topic is of no interest to YOU, then move along to the next topic. Why stifle conversation?

On to the results of the poll, I'm astounded that nearly 10% give the G23 1 or 2 stars!?!? In what universe?!?!?!? 1 or 2 stars is just junk!!! I'd like to know what gets 3+ stars from these folks...

 

[Dframe]

It goes bang every time, doesn't rust, and is simple to strip and clean.
Otherwise I find it unpleasant to shoot. The grip is to big to be small and too small to be big. the fingergrooves do NOT fit my fingers and finding a comfortable grip is impossible. magazines can NOT be trusted to drop free. It's magazine release is very sharp and requires two linebackers and a gorilla to press when new. the magazines are difficult to load and more than one person has cut themselves trying to get the last couple of rounds in. the guns odd balance causes the trigger ring to bash my middle finger as the gun slams back into battery, and it's abrasive trigger will eventually eat a hole in my trigger finger. I own exactly ONE (that I carried on duty) for sentimental purposes. I will never own another.

 

[red rick]

+1 with leadcounsel, I do understand why someone clicks on a thread that they are not interested in.

I really want to know why ?

 

[Blueduck]

If you have been part of the gun forums world since 97 or so, you would realize that pretty much EVERYTHING is rehashed, so get over it. If that were prohibited there would be about 3 post per day, and that's not very entertaining (I've actually seen some forums try that, they die).

Moving on, to the 23. I carry one daily I have two problems with it, first I have big hands/fingers so works best for me with finger grooves removed and trigger guard undercut. If you fit that mold and it concerns you might want to look elsewhere. Second it does have more kick than a 19 (9mm), not terrible or anything, but enough that some people don't like them. I prefer the 19 but due to job have to carry the 23. I don't weep at night over it.

 

[el Godfather]

Thanks to leadcouncil's arguments, I bought the Glock 23.

Orion...+Willy...,
It takes research plus discussion to make choices. You dont have to chime in with negative posts just because you are bored doing nothing. Perhaps, it's you who should use time wisely and be productive rather than criticizing people on threads that do not concern you. I am not sure if you do this out jealousy, hatred or ignorance because you are not the owner of forum and have no right to tell other members what to do or not to do.

+1 to red rick.

Dont like a thread MOVE ON! No need to derail or hijack it.

Again, thank you Leadcouncil and other forum members for good advices and opinions. Had leadcouncil not brought my attention to Glock 23, I honestly would not have researched, discussed and finally bought it.

 

[leadcounsel]

Wow, I've had a good week on THR! I've been repeatedly praised by my posts....

Maybe I should quit while I'm ahead and buy a lotto ticket.

Congrats on the G23. Buy up a lot of factory mags, and get some extended mags too! Put some Hi-viz low light style night sites on it. You'll enjoy it.

 

[el Godfather]

^will definitely try. Ordered GECO 500 rounds for it and two Glock 22 mags.

Too bad its not .40 Super! May be Glock should make those as well.

 

[willypete]

+1 with leadcounsel, I do understand why someone clicks on a thread that they are not interested in.

I really want to know why ?

Much the same as with some corporate emails I get at work, all I can read is the title. I think, "ooh boy, this could be interesting!" Then I read it, and am summarily disappointed. Trust me, this happens far more often than I like. I have a list of people whose threads I just don't open because this happens again and again and again and...

I disagree. New members may NOT have had these conversations and may want to be a part of the FORUM. That's different than just reading others opinions because they can contribute. And 30 people have contributed and many more have viewed this.

If this topic is of no interest to YOU, then move along to the next topic. Why stifle conversation?

On to the results of the poll, I'm astounded that nearly 10% give the G23 1 or 2 stars!?!? In what universe?!?!?!? 1 or 2 stars is just junk!!! I'd like to know what gets 3+ stars from these folks...

The problem being that most of the time, people who post stuff like this HAVEN'T gone back and read what's already been hashed over and think they're posting new stuff. Contributions are pointless if they're vapid or offer nothing new. It's like someone who doesn't read a whole multi-page thread before they respond and mention something that was said 5 times on pages 1, 2, 4, 5 and 7.

I won't stifle intelligent conversation, I promise.

Thanks to leadcouncil's arguments, I bought the Glock 23.

Orion...+Willy...,
It takes research plus discussion to make choices. You dont have to chime in with negative posts just because you are bored doing nothing. Perhaps, it's you who should use time wisely and be productive rather than criticizing people on threads that do not concern you. I am not sure if you do this out jealousy, hatred or ignorance because you are not the owner of forum and have no right to tell other members what to do or not to do.

+1 to red rick.

Dont like a thread MOVE ON! No need to derail or hijack it.

Again, thank you Leadcouncil and other forum members for good advices and opinions. Had leadcouncil not brought my attention to Glock 23, I honestly would not have researched, discussed and finally bought it.

No, it takes good research and intelligent discussion to make informed choices. So far, several of your thread topics have been about subjects that were old a few years ago. I'm sure these topics may be new to you, but if you'd read a bit and educate yourself, you'd realize why many of these subjects are old hash.

If you don't want to be criticized for posting old topics, then don't do it on a forum. You're all for discussion when it's what you think you want to talk about, but heaven forfend someone inserts a dissenting viewpoint.

"Jealousy, hatred or ignorance." Keep on dreaming, Alice. Any criticisms you get are because people want to see you post thought-provoking stuff, rather than "who switched from caliber x to caliber y," "what caliber for bear?!" and "recommend me the glockundemandpeeXD!" style threads.

Your assumption that negative reactions to your posts are based on "jealousy, hatred (really, hatred?! you think someone feels passionately enough about your posts to "hate" you?!) or ignorance" is telling. Rather than accept that you may simple be wrong (this would involve examining facts) you assume that others are basing their reasoning on emotion. I recommend Googling "projection."

If you're not interested in why someone's opinion differs from your own ("I can't believe someone doesn't hold the same high opinion of this product that I do!" "if you don't agree with/like what I say, stay out of MY thread!" "you're so NEGATIVE!"), then you're not really interested in engaging in an actual discussion, or a forum. You're glad-handling and seeking opinions similar to your own so that you can make yourself feel better.

 

[DrDeFab]

I have shot my neighbors on more than 1 occasion.

Oh... "I have shot my neighbor's on more than 1 occasion."



Punctuation saves lives!

 

[el Godfather]

willy
It seems like it's you who does not take well to criticism. Are you are a Moderator here who is going to define rules?

I dont mind at all being criticized on my posts, but thats different than someone trying to define rules who by no means has any authority to do so.

Here is my advice:
A- dont like a thread move on
B- have personal issue with me, pm me and we can hash it out.
C- be useful and do not try to disturb or hijack threads!

Chao

 

[willypete]

willy
It seems like it's you who does not take well to criticism. Are you are a Moderator here who is going to define rules?

I dont mind at all being criticized on my posts, but thats different than someone trying to define rules who by no means has any authority to do so.

Here is my advice:
A- dont like a thread move on
B- have personal issue with me, pm me and we can hash it out.
C- be useful and do not try to disturb or hijack threads!

Chao

I do not have a personal issue with you. I take issue with your posts. You keep fixating on "personal issues." I would like to see the content of your posts improve. That will not happen unless someone criticizes your posts.

Quit taking stuff so personally. You clearly do mind being criticized, as you imply that any dissent is emotionally based, rather than factual or logical.

 

[el Godfather]

I do not have a personal issue with you. I take issue with your posts. You keep fixating on "personal issues." I would like to see the content of your posts improve. That will not happen unless someone criticizes your posts.

Quit taking stuff so personally. You clearly do mind being criticized, as you imply that any dissent is emotionally based, rather than factual or logical.

I am really not interested in what you would like to see improve in my posts. Your arguments are not based on facts rather on philosophy of posts.

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Back on subject.
I am getting my paperwork cleared in a few days. Then it's range time.

 

[leadcounsel]

Willypete wrote:

Much the same as with some corporate emails I get at work, all I can read is the title. I think, "ooh boy, this could be interesting!" Then I read it, and am summarily disappointed. Trust me, this happens far more often than I like.

So, Willy, this thread it titled, "Rate the Glock 23." You then complained about the re-hashing of people rating the G23 as old news or a dead topic... 'beaten to death' was your language. Then you go on to say that the title was confusing and you didn't expect people to be discussing the Glock 23... What did you expect it to be about? There are only a few plausible responses and none are good for you. Let it go brother.

On to the topic, for El Godfather, I know you like custom nice guns. One upgrade you can do is a stainless steel guiderod. You could also get a .357 or/and 9mm barrels because they all interchange with the Glock .40 calibers. You can get longer barrels too if you decide. Congrats on your purchase.

 

[bergmen]

Fits my hand like a gag toy plastic turd. Ugly as sin. Can't get far enough past those points to even give an honest opinion on the actual mechanics of it.

Well, with Glock ugly is only skin deep, beauty goes straight to the bone.

Dan