RBCD acronym

[Pyro]

I just picked up a box of their 9mm ammo. I'm curious what RBCD stands for. Not looking for a review of their ammo, just what the company name stands for (since I can't find it on the box or their website).

 

[Teachu2]

Really Bad Cartridge Distributors.

 

[jmr40]

Never heard of them. I googled them and couldn't find anything either. Just a wild guess but maybe the initials of the founders.

 

[Mal H]

That's what I'm thinking also. No where on their site do they explain what the initials stand for.

 

[Bluelight]

A search of RBCD turned up a Wikipedia write up for "Red Book Compact Disc" standard.
How accurate is Wikipedia? I don't quite see how CD standards relate to ammo, but if anyone can tie them together let us know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBCD_Performance_Plus,_Inc.

 

[md2lgyk]

Nothing I could find on the internet explained the acronym. However, from Wikipedia:

"RBCD Performance Plus, Inc. of San Antonio, Texas produces ammunition marketed as blended-metal bullets. The ammunition is distributed by Le Mas Ltd. of Little Rock, Arkansas. However, RBCD's "Blended-Metal Technology" (BMT) is a trademark and not a description of bullet composition. Independent testing by Dr. Gary Roberts showed that RBCD ammunition is, 'nothing but lightweight, repackaged varmint bullets disguised with a black coating of moly, and driven to higher than normal velocities with concomitantly higher than normal pressures.' Roberts cites a USSOCOM and ARDEC study published in 2007 which supports his findings."

Doesn't sound like anything I'd be interested in trying.

 

[Jim Watson]

In pistol calibers, I am not aware of any "lightweight varmint bullets" for them to repackage. Their appearance is different from any major US brand.

 

[tipoc]

I seem to recall this ammo made the rounds some time back under another name. Le Mas as I recall. It's ads read very similarly to Extreme Shoks ads.

This is very light weight bullets at a high velocity. They tend to break up, explosively, with little penetration from what I have read.

From their ads...

RBCD Performance Plus ammunition is designed to penetrate automotive safety glass and metal body panels while, still maintaining the desired expansion, penetration and energy transfer in tissue, without over penetration.

Key Benefits

Designed to penetrate automobile doors and glass and still deliver total energy transfer within the intended target inside the automobile.
The bullets are designed with total energy transfer within the target with controlled penetration.

http://rbcd.net/Products/Ammunition/

http://rbcd.net/Products/Personal_Defense/

RBCD Performance Plus Ammunition available loaded with standard premium bullets. Your velocities and energy levels may vary from that listed here and on cartridge boxes due to temperature, firearms manufacturers tolerances, and barrel length. To include but not limited to the type, accuracy, and condition of the chronograph used, and other conditions and factors beyond our control. RBCD Performance Plus Ammunition is high performance, high intensity ammunition, that requires the firearms used must be in good condition and designed for high intensity ammunition...Use with caution in safe conditions, and only after proper instruction from a qualified instructor.

Here are a few tests of it...

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot38_2.htm

An article on it with test results beginning on page 46...

http://fmgpublications.ipaperus.com/FMGPublications/AmericanCop/ACJA09/

I recall that the ammo's performance was inconsistent. In general very shallow penetration with the bullets usually breaking up.

tipoc

 

[tipoc]

Also a discussion of it here...

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/defensive-ammunition-ballistics/81663-rbcd-ammo-controversy.html

tipoc

 

[David E]

I think the C in it refers to Jim Cirillo who gave me some. He was pretty high on it, but I found several calibers with high primers.

When I contacted the company about that, they were very concerned about how I got some ammo and how much Jim gave me. Their response about the high primers? "Those primers aren't high, you're mistaken." Since they never even saw a picture of them, I wondered how they could deny the reality with such arrogant confidence.

I properly seated the primers on all but the .32 acp and chrono'd a few. ALL loads came up far short of their advertised velocities.

The bullets appear to be jacketed plastic, but I don't know.

I do know they are an overpriced novelty ammo to be avoided.
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[Shawn Dodson]

"RBCD" is simply the first name initials of the inventor's (Roscoe Stoker) family:

R - Roscoe Stoker
B - Brenda Stoker
C - Cynthia Stoker
D - David Stoker

The bullet is merely a piece of lead buckshot, a plastic ball, and a copper jacket:

 

[berettaprofessor]

YGad's, that looks awful.

 

[Pyro]

Thanks for the info!
Interesting bullet construction.

 

[Mike1234567]

Really
Bad
Cartridge
Design

 

[MachIVshooter]

Really
Bad
Cartridge
Design

Seeing that cross section, I have to agree.

 

[Dr. Sandman]

What do you want it to stand for?

 

[HOOfan_1]

wouldn't it be better for accuracy if the center of gravity was toward the back instead of the front?

 

[stressed]

RBCD; sucks.

 

[MachIVshooter]

wouldn't it be better for accuracy if the center of gravity was toward the back instead of the front?

Well, actually, a bullet with more weight to the front will be more difficult to upset. The greater weight in the rear is why conventional designs will tend to tumble and travel base-forward once upset.

Having said that, this is still a terrible design.

 

[HOOfan_1]

Well, actually, a bullet with more weight to the front will be more difficult to upset. The greater weight in the rear is why conventional designs will tend to tumble and travel base-forward once upset.

Having said that, this is still a terrible design.

By upset you mean what? Hit a target? I know they tend to tumble in a target, and they are designed to do that.

That would be terminal ballistics, not accuracy

Match grade rifle bullets have the weight in the rear.