trikster
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How much would it cost to have the aforementioned Arisaka rebarrelled to accommodate a more common round? I have one and hear great things about durability, would be nice to redo it a bit and keep it alive.
Rebarrell Arisaka type 38
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BrocLuno
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Pac-Nor will make a barrel, but you will have to have a local Smith install it. If the rifling is good in your existing barrel (?), then you could get it re-chambered for something like 6.5 Swedish if you want. But Arisaka ammo is out there, so why the switch?
Gunnerboy
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PLEASE do not destroy a piece of history like that, Arisakas are becoming harder to find in original military condition if its the barrel thats all goofed up then you could get a reamer and chamber it to 260 rem ive seen a few like that but if its for hunting i have used the 6.5 jap on coyotes and its a nice round and would do fine for deer.
Jim Watson
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If it is in unaltered military configuration, it is worth a bit of money and you might come out better to sell it and buy a Savage or some such.
If it has already been messed with, a Shaw barrel will cost $230 stainless or $160 CM plus $100 to blue plus $110 to install. I don't know of anyplace less expensive. You could buy a lot of 6.5 for $340. Or a nice reloading outfit to make your own.
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/164?
If it has already been messed with, a Shaw barrel will cost $230 stainless or $160 CM plus $100 to blue plus $110 to install. I don't know of anyplace less expensive. You could buy a lot of 6.5 for $340. Or a nice reloading outfit to make your own.
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/164?
mod60rimfire
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I'd love an arisaka in like 270
Curator
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I had E.R. Shaw re-barrel my bubba'd M38 Arisaka to .260Rem. Great job for about $130 (a few years ago) It is now a real tack driver and easy to reload for.
trikster
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The gun appears to be mechanically fine, but "isn't pretty." It is on consignment with a price of $200 and hasn't had much interest at all. I only asked to make the gun useful again. Yes I know you can find rounds for it, but the cost is very high. If it was redone to something on the more plentiful side, I would put it back into service.
BrocLuno
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True - Mr Nambu will sell a lot of boxes of PPV ammo (Prvi Partizan) for the cost of a re-barrel. Not saying it's a bad idea. It's just that with 4 or 5 boxes of ammo, you have enough to reload. It all depends on what shape the existing barrel is in.
I have 3 or 4 Arisakas and my Type38 is getting ready to re-barrel, but it's a pitted sewer pipe. If it wasn't I'd shoot it stock. I'll likely have it chambered to 6.5Swede for the heck of it. I have other Arisakas to shoot in original calibers.
I will say that a Type99 based bubba sporter makes a hell of a feral pig gun. Arisakas can be quite light to tote in the field and the 7.7 hits hard enough to get their attention
I have 3 or 4 Arisakas and my Type38 is getting ready to re-barrel, but it's a pitted sewer pipe. If it wasn't I'd shoot it stock. I'll likely have it chambered to 6.5Swede for the heck of it. I have other Arisakas to shoot in original calibers.
I will say that a Type99 based bubba sporter makes a hell of a feral pig gun. Arisakas can be quite light to tote in the field and the 7.7 hits hard enough to get their attention
mortomr
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I never shot my T38 until I finally bought 4 boxes (@$22/ea) from:
http://www.tacticalammunition.com/65-Japanese_c69.htm
and have been reloading that Privi brass ever since with my $20 (shipped) die set. When I need more brass I'll likely order from them again as I've had a hard time finding brass for a comparable price. I had this rifle for a long time and it just took a bit of shopping, but it's now very economical to shoot.
http://www.tacticalammunition.com/65-Japanese_c69.htm
and have been reloading that Privi brass ever since with my $20 (shipped) die set. When I need more brass I'll likely order from them again as I've had a hard time finding brass for a comparable price. I had this rifle for a long time and it just took a bit of shopping, but it's now very economical to shoot.
trikster
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I am not a reloader, so $1 a round is not cheap. I don't have any real desire to reload at this time.
USAF_Vet
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$1 a round is not cheap, but neither is rebarreling or rechambering a rifle.
I disagree that Arisakas are becoming harder to find. So far this year, I've seen several, and i'm not even looking. They aren't as common as the Mosin Nagant, but they aren't exactly rare. Ammo isn't super cheap, but nor is it super expensive. It's your gun, do with it as you please. I think you might find out the hard way what a project of this sort entails.
I disagree that Arisakas are becoming harder to find. So far this year, I've seen several, and i'm not even looking. They aren't as common as the Mosin Nagant, but they aren't exactly rare. Ammo isn't super cheap, but nor is it super expensive. It's your gun, do with it as you please. I think you might find out the hard way what a project of this sort entails.
Ask several hundred thousand GIs how "bad" the 6.5 round is. So, you want to turn a 200 dollar rifle into a less than 100 dollar rifle while spending about 300 bucks to do it? Take that money and buy a rifle in the caliber you desire. It will be much cheaper in the long run.....chris3
MachIVshooter
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Check the prices on other centerfire rifle ammo before you give further consideration to this modification. Aside from Surplus 7.62x54 or 8mm Mauser, most rifle ammo runs at least $15/box of 20.
Even if you rechamber to .308 and buy the cheapest ammo out there, you'll have to put 700 plus rounds down range just to negate the cost of rebarreling. It does not make sense to do this when you could buy a lot of nice rifles already chambered in .308 for similar or less money.
If you want a rifle that's cheap to shoot, buy a Mosin or a Mauser. Leave the Arisakas to those of us who appreciate what they are and are willing to handload or pay for the correct ammo.
BrocLuno
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You can get Arisaka ammo here all day long: http://www.mrnambu.com/Brass.htm He has auctions on the sites shown all the time, or email him direct for current pricing
USAF_Vet
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vellocet, way to add nothing to the conversation. Where did you get the idea that I'm an expert? If owning one and seeing several for sale makes me an expert, well then there you go. Otherwise... nevermind. It wouldn't be very High Road of me to type what I really want.
So, you must think the Arisaka is rare, or at least uncommon, and expensive to boot?
Gun Broker.com, right now, has 43 Arisaka rifles for sale ranging in price between $60 ( no reserve) and a bulk buy of 6 Arisaka rifle and one Nambu pistol for $2400.
Empire Arms has Arisaka rifles for sale. Guns America has 27 listings ranging from $175 to $2k. (rare breakdown paratrooper model).
Two of my LGS have a small handful of Arisaka rifles, reasonalble prices.
But you're right, not at all common. Most rare milsurp out there.
So vellocet, do you have such deep pockets to spend hundreds of dollars on a rebarreled milsurp that isn't all that expensive to begin with? I was only warning the OP that his great idea wasn't, and could wind up costing more than it would ever be worth. but yeah, we could always just take your approach too.
What was it again?
So, you must think the Arisaka is rare, or at least uncommon, and expensive to boot?
Gun Broker.com, right now, has 43 Arisaka rifles for sale ranging in price between $60 ( no reserve) and a bulk buy of 6 Arisaka rifle and one Nambu pistol for $2400.
Empire Arms has Arisaka rifles for sale. Guns America has 27 listings ranging from $175 to $2k. (rare breakdown paratrooper model).
Two of my LGS have a small handful of Arisaka rifles, reasonalble prices.
But you're right, not at all common. Most rare milsurp out there.
So vellocet, do you have such deep pockets to spend hundreds of dollars on a rebarreled milsurp that isn't all that expensive to begin with? I was only warning the OP that his great idea wasn't, and could wind up costing more than it would ever be worth. but yeah, we could always just take your approach too.
What was it again?
trikster
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It wasn't a great idea, it was just an idea. The idea came from seeing one that had been "Sportified" (their word) that was awesome. I think it was redone in .308 but am not sure. My LGS has 5 of them on hand. So not exactly rare.
Just a gentle opinion, usafvet. Empire Arms, as such. sells Japanese rifles. And they stay on his site for many months. Unbought. !75 for a ground mum rifle that you can shoot is not too bad. But, usafvet, I simply told op to drop the price he wanted on the gun rather than fool with it, per your opinions,not to convert it. My offer of 150 or so for yours still stands, if it works and all. Best regards, my friend, and my c+r is current.
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