Recent affinity for 10mm

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Dear THR:
I am drawn to 10mm, finally. For years I have been trying to justify why should one have 10mm until I bought Colt Delta Elite. Perfect!

Energy is excellent yet keeping size of the round within true semi-auto parameters. In fact, size is better that one would expect with the amount energy it has.

I shot around my delta elite a bit. When finally convinced that for me it is the best round (cost is irrelevant to me since I am not using it for sports just SD). I placed orders for Glock 20 and 29- what is more to ask for? 9mm like capacity with lot more energy than 45. Why then compromise on .40?

Also in talks (through my agent) with Wilson and Nighthawk for one each from their shops. Meanwhile, also placed order for a bulk quantity of ammo.

I am just surprised why not more manufacturers make 10mms. Wish there was a 10mm in H&K.

What do fellow 10mm users think?

Thanks
 
First of if love to see pictures of your newly acquired guns and secondly the 10mm didn't have a great beginning that is part of why it is a niche caliber at best and I am a fan
 
Also in talks (through my agent) with Wilson and Nighthawk for one each from their shops.
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Your "agent"? I would want to be a part of the discussion on a build.

May I ask why you use an agent to order firearms?
 
What do I think?

I think I've got a deal for you. :)

I have:
--a 2008 DW CBOB 10mm with about 700 rounds through it, and $250 of work into it (from a reputable 1911-smith, with receipt).
--950 rounds of HSM target FMJ ammo (bought 1000, shot 50).
--a box-here-and-a-box-there of SD ammo (couple of Silver Tip, some GA, etc.)

And, if you are a handloader, I have:
--500 rounds of new Starline brass.
--About 1500 rounds of once-fired brass.
--About 1500 projectiles (mostly 180 gr lead, but also 100 Golden Sabre JHP).

--two sets of dies.

If you have any interest, pm me.
 
Sorry I'm going to be that annoying poster who has nothing helpful to add, but the 10mm has been on my radar for awhile since I found out that you can convert a Glock 30 to 10mm, I would already own one if I reloaded. Glad to see you are enjoying the 10mm. I wish more manufactures made handguns chambered for it also. Please post some photos.
 
Love my G20. Not much to not like about 15+1 .40 cal 200 gr. JHP @ 1250 fps except for the relative lack of popularity. For sure, the 10mm deserves more than it has gotten, and offers a lot more than any other auto cartridge on the market in terms of utility and versitility. The 10mm Auto is where it is at...

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Wish there was a 10mm in H&K.
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Knowing your love for the brand, I hope your heart isn't broken. For what it's worth, one of my favorite ideas for an HD carbine would be an HK UMP in 10mm.

Keep us appraised of your new venture into this caliber. Pics if possible good sir!
 
I'm a fan of the 10mm, but understand why it will never be mainstream. Against human threats it is more gun than needed. As a hunting handgun it can't keep up with long barreled magnum revolvers. But it has a strong following, the round is holding steady in popularity if not gaining small steps.

It's niche for me is as my hiking/camping/woods gun in bear country. From long 6"-8" barrels 41 and 44 magnum revlovers clearly outpace the 10mm. But when fired from common 3"-4" guns one would carry backpacking the 10mm comes pretty close and still offers the advantages of a semi for human threats.

Bad pic, but my G-20 next to my 3" S&W 629. The Glock is 3/4 lb lighter, 1" shorter, and holds 10 more rounds. The 10mm shoots 200 gr bullets @1315 fps from my gun. The 44 magnum shoots 240 gr bullets @ 1150 fps from my gun. I could get 1500 fps from an 8" revolver, but if I'm carrying an 8" revolver I'd just as soon carry a rifle.

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EAA makes a very nice 10 mm that will stand up to some hard shooting.There is a video of it being shoot. With a little work it become a very very accurate gun. Go to the net put EAA 10 mm that will take you there.
 
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el Godfather said:
Dear THR:
I am drawn to 10mm, finally. For years I have been trying to justify why should one have 10mm until I bought Colt Delta Elite. Perfect!

Energy is excellent yet keeping size of the round within true semi-auto parameters. In fact, size is better that one would expect with the amount energy it has.

I shot around my delta elite a bit. When finally convinced that for me it is the best round (cost is irrelevant to me since I am not using it for sports just SD). I placed orders for Glock 20 and 29- what is more to ask for? 9mm like capacity with lot more energy than 45. Why then compromise on .40?

Also in talks (through my agent) with Wilson and Nighthawk for one each from their shops. Meanwhile, also placed order for a bulk quantity of ammo.

I am just surprised why not more manufacturers make 10mms. Wish there was a 10mm in H&K.

What do fellow 10mm users think?

Thanks
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I have a 10mm EAA Elite Match. I think it is the perfect caliber. Powerful at standard pressures, and the 40 bullet is a nice medium between .35 and .45.

JMR kind of hit on the issue. For SD, it is a powerhouse, not that I mind the power, but my 9mm high power is a bit more controllable.

Me...I like to have options...why choose a favorite? The nice thing about the 10mm is flexibility. I can shoot 125 grain all the way up to 200 grain leadcast or XTPs. It is versatile enough to carry loads for SD in an urban or wooded environment. I wouldn't trust a 9mm to stop a charging wild hog...but I've pretty comfortable with the 10mm getting the job done.
 
wow6599 said:
BTW, how is your Dan Wesson Titan working out?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=9179870&postcount=3
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Titan didn't work out and I was told there was a delay, at least a year. But will get ut ine things are sorted out.

Orders placed for Glock 20 and 29 (should get 20 within 2 months). Glock 29 in but custom clearing.

Orders also placed for Wilson Combat Protector 10mm and Nighthawk HLS 10mm through my agent. He said they are custom gun and may take as much time as possible end year 2014- those here who have nighthawks and wilsons may be able to tell me more about it.

And here is my delta elite: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=731659

DW's Elite guns take a long time. i would still get titan in due time (fingers crossed). I got Havok and it took almost a year.
 
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Your "agent"? I would want to be a part of the discussion on a build.

May I ask why you use an agent to order firearms?
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You have three posts in this short thread all aiming at my integrity with sarcastic remarks those nothing to do with the thread's subject matter.

Agent is used as clearing agents who import firearms for you. Anything (firearm) going out of the US will require an export permission by the State Department and thats for each individual item. It takes lots of time. All this is handled by an agent for a fee otherwise I would have to quit my routine work and just do this. Then when permission is granted, shipping and handling is also done by agent who knows how. Manufacturers dont usually ship for civilian orders. Once shipped then comes the clearing part on my neck of woods. He clears, pays duties and files paperwork. Then I can claim the item from him and have it registered in my name.

That is why I use a clearing agent for all this as I have staff for other things as well.
 
here who have nighthawks and wilsons may be able to tell me more about it.
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There is currently 15-18m build time on Wilson and around the same for NHC.
 
^ it all comes down to wait. Lets see what response I get from them. In any event it seems like the earliest possible would be mid to end next year for delivery.
 
Seems to me that the OP is not in the U.S. ;) I shoot a G20 and G29. Tried the conversion of a G21 to 10mm, using a KKM barrel. Never could get consistent extraction.

There have been many reports of similar problems with other Glock .45acp-to-10mm conversions.
 
jmr40 said:
my G-20 next to my 3" S&W 629. The Glock is 3/4 lb lighter, 1" shorter, and holds 10 more rounds.
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For a weird jealous second, I thought that was a snub nose 610 in the picture. :)

Not that I'm not jealous of your 3" 629.
 
I'm also a 10mm fan. If you reload, it can be a very versatile round. You can download it to basically be a .40 that won't blow up if you get a lot of bullet setback, then amp it up past .357 into mid-.41 magnum territory. And since it's very similar in overall length, it is easy to make run reliably in 1911's and other firearms designed around the .45ACP. If you like light-and-fast, you can find 135gr blasters that just scream out of the barrel, and if you like big, heavy bullets, it will push a 200 gr LSWC with ease.

Worst aspect is trying to hang onto the brass, since you'll almost never find anyone else's just lying on the range to make up for ones you lose!
 
I'm a big fan of the Delta Elite. I haven't tried any other 10mm, but it seems like a great cartridge to collect around. Those custom builds you are planning to get are just a dream to me - they should be fantastic! I'm looking forward to your future reviews.
 
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