Redneck Engineering a Lee Bullet Feeder to a Dillon 550

[GW Staar]

That one is still law suit bait with a ramp....

Actually I personally don't care....you know I made a base down one for myself out of my inefficient Hornady using the infamous ramp, but I wouldn't dare sell them or plans to make them. Several of the people that have had DAA give them notice to desist.

And I don't do point down ever because I buy and use plated or jacketed bullets.......but I'm just trying to help friends out that do......legally. Still like no, love! the jmorris ramp....that's neater than heck! You going to apply for a patent?

 

[jmorris]

That one is still law suit bait with a ramp....


Still like no, love! the jmorris ramp....that's neater than heck! You going to apply for a patent?

No, because it is pointless to pay for legal action against an individual who may or may not be violating a patent, making something for themselves. What are the losses I could convince a judge or jury that I incurred due to the unit they made for personal use? I bet it wouldn’t pay for lunch on the first visit with my lawyer. The Jmorris ramp isn’t mine anyway it’s the way they were in the beginning. IIRC Rodger was the name of the first KISS person I spoke with and they (him and Rick) had a falling out and Rick came out of it as the owner.

I have corresponded with Rick via email before, pretty sure he knows about the collators I have built in the past. Also obvious that I don’t offer or sell any parts or plans, really nothing more than photos of how and what makes them work. In 2014 he actually emailed me a video he made of his yet to be released nose down conversion of his own unit, when he noticed one of my posts on the flipper I made for one of the collators I built.

I was kind of surprised he went after Ammomike68, maybe it was just DAA, I don’t know any details and not sure if Mike ever got anything out of sharing his files or not, but in any case the threat of having to defend a case against him wasn’t worth sharing the information beyond the tens of thousands of downloads that had already been done.

Kind of closing the barn door after the cows get out, too many people have the files, they are everywhere now. Almost impossible even if they wanted to go after an individual that makes one for themselves, how could they know you printed one? Unless of course you post photos and videos of them. Foil hats have never been my thing though.

 

[GW Staar]

I was kind of surprised he went after Ammomike68

The result of DAA's threat (and it was DAA) certainly stopped Ammo Mike in his tracks, now making collators for sale with 2 outlets, one for point ups and the other for point downs....kind of amusing. Instantly halved the production.....but they have to do what makes them feel safe. When you think about it, the old rotate over and over until they fall right as in Hornady's and RCBS's offerings is more efficient......at least you don't have to keep pouring in failed drops from the second outlet.

For me it never was about a business.....just a personal hobby, and a challenge to keep me busy trying to help.....sometimes I'm successful...sometimes I spin the tires. As I get older there's more spinning. This thread is a perfect description for me.....Redneck Engineering. I could save me a lot of grief if I get a printer .... that depends on if this old dog can learn new software ... working on that now .... if I can't .... there's no point in wasting money on the printer.

 

[jmorris]

FWIW it actually takes a lot longer to print one than it does to just make it. The difference is how much effort one has to put into it. Hit the start button and go away for the weekend or spend a day making the parts.

The printer makes the parts in hundreds of layers of tiny thin lines of plastic, that takes so long your not going to sit there and watch it.



Even for the parts that are made fairly easy out of a sheet and simple fixture. Like these, that are a drill a hole and manually index operation.



Depending on the infill, the printed one could take an entire day to create but still less labor than making one in 30 minutes.

 

[greyling22]

I like it! Redneck that Lee part onto a Dillon! I've done it myself with a case coallator and auto drum on a 650.

 

[GW Staar]

FWIW it actually takes a lot longer to print one than it does to just make it. The difference is how much effort one has to put into it. Hit the start button and go away for the weekend or spend a day making the parts.

Or go to work and have it make parts while your gone. Like I do with my tumblers. That's one of the sweetest advantages.

The printer makes the parts in hundreds of layers of tiny thin lines of plastic, that takes so long your not going to sit there and watch it.
Even for the parts that are made fairly easy out of a sheet and simple fixture. Like these, that are a drill a hole and manually index operation.

Exactly! For you, you have the precision tools and skill to make it yourself as good or better.....me? I did mine with a h.m. jig and a hand held router. The printer for me would add more exactness than I have skill or tools for.

Depending on the infill, the printed one could take an entire day to create but still less labor than making one in 30 minutes.

And that's the best feature....only unless you have a deadline that precludes using it. How do you feel about less than full infill for something like that platter? Would it make it too weak to last? Can you control the infill as in where it's solid and where it's not?