Refinishing: why no mention of Rustoleum?

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So I was at the hardware store and I noticed some 'automotive' as well as 'high temperature' Rustoleum in flat black. I've used the "standard" flat black Rustoleum to "re-finish" an SKS, and that held up pretty well to CLP as well as the heat from firing - though it wasn't quite as durable as I'd have liked (it didn't peel off, but it did scratch off more easily than, say, whatever they put on ARs), so I stripped it.

But what of these other grill/high-temp/automotive Rustoleum products for firearm refinishing? The flat black rustoleum ('consumer grade') goes on pretty evenly and looks like a dark park job. I searched the Internet and I couldn't find any reference to the use of Rustoleum for firearm finishes, which surprised me.

So, has anyone tried Rustoleum refinishing of firearms, particularly the "high temperature" grill variant (1200F rating) or the automotive variant (which, IIRC, suggests a max use temperature of 200F. Would common firing bring a (say) pistol up to 200F? I'd think that a product intended for use in an environment where the culmination of high temperatures (enough to cook food on a grill, at least - at least as hot as a hot gun) and the expected scraping of the object with a metal spatula and metal brush (to remove built-up food) would be able to withstand the common wear and tear a firearm would, yes?

At what temperature is metal able to 'scald' a person? According to this, metal doesn't get to 'faint red' hot until around 930F, and I've never heard of a pistol getting that hot. I know rifle barrels can and do get up past 1500F, though that's kinda at the point that they go "boom".

Can anyone think of a reason why the $5 bottle of 'kick arse' grill/high temp Rustoleum wouldn't be superior to the $8+ "commercial" grade of (say) Krylon/Sherwin Williams, which I hear is essentially Duracoat (or maybe it was Guncoat, I'm not sure)?
 
Actually, quite a few years ago that's exactly what I did with a scratched-up AR7. Plugged the bore, painted it, and put it in the drying oven at work.

30 years later, it needs another coat.

Also a firing pin, recoil springs, and a buyer. :D
 
i came across a finishing website that i actually may take my gun to as i like what they are doing there.

Not too expensive either i think it will be 75 bucks for single color for the barrelled action/reciever/etc.

They use a Duracoat firearm finish coating. seems like a paint to me
 
I've heard people refer to Rustoleum as the poor man's bluing.

I've used it on many guns and had very good results. Its not as permanent a solution as having something blued or parkerized but its a quick and easy solution sometimes.
 
What ever works and looks good. I use MAP. It's a sign paint. I can't figure out how to get a photo on this so I can't show off.

My old 870 gets a fresh coat of white every winter. What ever is handy.
 
Duracoat, if I'm not mistaken, is simply an epoxy paint. You could save yourself a lot of coin using your automotive paint supplier instead, and using something along the lines of PPG Delstar or any other automotive grade epoxy paint. However, you'll have a lot more paint than you need since most of them only sell it in quart quantities or larger. Suppose you could buy small containers and pawn the rest off on THR classifieds pretty easy and recoup your investment.

My jeep can attest to it's longevity, 11+ years now and still holding strong. My jeep sees more abuse than most firearms. Unless of course you beat your firearm through the brush, drag it on trees and rocks, and occasionally drop it on the ground. Okay, might be a wash there.

I restored my jeep about 11 years ago now. I did coat a lot of small parts with Rustoleum paint. I found the finish to be much more durable once baked dry in the oven at the lowest setting for an hour or two.

Prep is everything when it comes to paint.
 
You may have heard of people using Krylon. Thats become the "Kleenex" of aerosol paints, and covers Rustoleum, DupliColor, and other spray paints.
 
One down side of it is that strong solvents like brake parts cleaner or whatever they sell the gun cleaning equivelant as (gun blaster or something?) will strip it.
 
I used rustoleum hight tem bbq paint on my AK, and EVERY time I post a pic of it in a gun forum, I get several PM's asking what I used for a finish.Several people have tried it at my suggestion, and have PM'd me later on to tell me how well it has worked out for them too.Not my first choice on a high end gun, but for and cheap mosin, sks, or WASR-10, why not? Works great, cost a couple bucks for a can that will finish the whole gun like 10 times over....
 
When you guys are painting what did you use to strip and degrease ?

I use a product called Strypall (I think) from the auto paint store. It's a universal degreaser than can be used on plastics, metal or anything you'd be putting automotive type finish on.

Don't be fooled by the duracoat's pitch, that stuff is simply an automotive grade paint, nothing more. Maybe a formulation to be more solvent or scratch resistant when dry, but simply an automotive type paint.

A good paint job is always in the prep anyway, no matter what you decide to use.
 
Don't be fooled by the duracoat's pitch, that stuff is simply an automotive grade paint, nothing more. Maybe a formulation to be more solvent or scratch resistant when dry, but simply an automotive type paint.

i would be interested to see how automotive paint compares but they do offer some nice color options. alot of tans/grays/dark greens that you may not find on cars/trucks
 
I can't say i ever tried the flat black rustoleum on a gun, but I did use it once on a bbq grill that had rusted. as another poster said, its all about the prep work.

i sanded off the rust and sprayed it on. the paint repair job outlasted the rest of the grill.
 
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