Reloading For A 9mm Revolver
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My 929 will not ignite cartridges just sitting in the chambers without the moon clips. My LCR will fire them off just fine.
I like the PITBULL, but reloading each chamber is slower than just dropping a moon clip in.
Michael Tinker Pearce
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I ground a chunk of mild steel to the correct thickness, bored a hole in it that would accept the cases and then inserted each case and ground off the bit sticking out on a belt-sander. Then I de-burred the case mouth and Viola! 9mm rimmed. I call the result .355/19R- a .355" bullet, 19mm long, Rimmed. The maximum load that I have tried so far is a 115gr. TMJ-RN on top of 5.1gr. of Unique with a CCI primer. This seems to approximate typical 9mm 'range loads.' My wife is recoil-sensitive (bum wrist) so for her I load them with 3.5gr. of Unique so she can enjoy shooting the m905 on the range.
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Ok, have to comment on these experts. I started shooting the LCR9mm about two years ago. Lousy shot at first, but diligent training has really paid off. Now all this talk about Crimp jump has to be taken with a grain of salt. Yes, cheap ammo will jump crimp. Once you find the ammo that works, which there are many, you never have this problem. I have not had crimp jump in thousands of rounds. And I love moon clips.
On the Ruger Black Hawk, also use good ammo. Steel case expand and will get stuck. Some ammo has a out of spec AOL. Check out this pic of a Tula Brass MAX. Do you think it will fit in a Blackhawk cylinder?
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I too have been loading for my LCR 9 for a couple of years. I found that just a tad extra crimp, on my cast lead bullets, prevents jump.
I was aware of this phenomena from the git go, and carefully watched it. I've never had the revolver lock up, but initially I was getting quite a bit of creep. So much so, that the pressure from the last round was noticeably different from that of the first.
I was aware of this phenomena from the git go, and carefully watched it. I've never had the revolver lock up, but initially I was getting quite a bit of creep. So much so, that the pressure from the last round was noticeably different from that of the first.
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A rimmed 9mm. That's pure genius!
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Thank you, but I am hardly the first to come up with this idea!
ReloaderFred
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Yep, too bad you couldn't locate some 9mm Federal Rimmed brass. It would have saved a lot of trimming.
Hope this helps.
Fred
Hope this helps.
Fred
Jeb Stuart
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I have not had any problems of crimp jump using the Lee factory crimp die. That said, I shoot a lot of American Eagle for range and never a problem along with a host of other ammo. Really is a over exaggerated problem.
Cump
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Interesting. I like the flexibility of the fast load and the ability to load singles at the range...
I thought the trigger on the LCR was a pretty nice out-of-the-box trigger, for double action, but the trigger has gotten so much better with use, I'm really happy with it. I've shot mostly 147gr Remington Golden Saber, 124gr Gold Dot and 147gr Lawman TMJ and I haven't had any bullets pop out. I haven't measured bullet creep because I don't have a caliper.
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Here is a great review of the LCR9mm by one of my Favorites, Bruce from "Mouse Guns and gear". Unfortunately some of the pics have been deleted due to the Photo bucket crap, but the review is still there. Notice the benefits he gives for Moon clips and also see his review of the ARX 9mm plus P. (which I now carry in my LCR,
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/search?q=lcr+9mm
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/search?q=lcr+9mm
When I put 115gr WWB in my LCR and measure from the front of the cylinder to the bullet tip I get almost 9/16"
A bullet would have to completely fall out of its case to lock up the cylinder right?
In his article ‘Bullet Jump’ Makes 9mm Snubbies a No-No John Farnum writes: "a bullet jumped forward far enough to protrude from the face of the cylinder and thus prevent the cylinder from rotating normally. In fact, the bullet jumped forward far enough to physically separate from the case."
I think that's a given since any 9mm bullet would have to traverse almost 1/2 inch of distance to protrude from the cylinder face.
A bullet would have to completely fall out of its case to lock up the cylinder right?
In his article ‘Bullet Jump’ Makes 9mm Snubbies a No-No John Farnum writes: "a bullet jumped forward far enough to protrude from the face of the cylinder and thus prevent the cylinder from rotating normally. In fact, the bullet jumped forward far enough to physically separate from the case."
I think that's a given since any 9mm bullet would have to traverse almost 1/2 inch of distance to protrude from the cylinder face.
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I bought my 9 mm LCR snubbie not long after Ruger put them out. For a while I felt like a unicorn,good to find folks with 9mm revolver experience. Recently got into reloading with a Dillon XL 650.Haven't reloaded 9mm yet due to the lower cost of ammo compared to .223 and 45 ACP.My experience with bullet creep goes like this.
Shoot 4 rounds then pull 5th and measure
1.Fed Prem 124 Gr. HST - .010 to .012"
2. Fed Prem +P 124 Gr. HST - .012 to .020
3. Fed Prem +P+ 115 Gr. BPLE - Complete seperation of bullet from case!
I carry the gun as BUG to my Compact 9mm Auto and like it well in that role.
Has anybody experimented with crimping to mitigate the bullet creep?For now I only shoot std pressure but would like the option of more power.recoil is not a big issue for me.
Shoot 4 rounds then pull 5th and measure
1.Fed Prem 124 Gr. HST - .010 to .012"
2. Fed Prem +P 124 Gr. HST - .012 to .020
3. Fed Prem +P+ 115 Gr. BPLE - Complete seperation of bullet from case!
I carry the gun as BUG to my Compact 9mm Auto and like it well in that role.
Has anybody experimented with crimping to mitigate the bullet creep?For now I only shoot std pressure but would like the option of more power.recoil is not a big issue for me.
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By the way the seperated bullet did not protrude from cylinder but glad I did not pull triger on it
See post #44.
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I agree with the < .015 and the neck tension. Time to get a 9mm die and start experimenting.
I recently got a new Ruger SP101 chambered for 9x19 and it is picky about rim size. Domestic ammunition, at least Blazer brass and R-P, works fine but foreign cases jam up the action a bit as the rims are thicker. There is not enough room between the cylinder and the breech face for the foreign rim and moon clip.
My S&W 986's have not shown this limitation.
I'll start sorting ammunition for the SP101.
A couple months ago, I did a 2700 cartridge run of 9x19. Fortunately, my semi-auto pistols do not care about the rim size and I can sort out enough domestic case ammunition for the SP101.
I'll probably work at phasing out cases with foreign head stamps as they pass through the reloading process to make my life easier. Courtesy of Heir Obama and Madam Clinton policies I have lots of new Starline 9x19 brass on hand.
My S&W 986's have not shown this limitation.
I'll start sorting ammunition for the SP101.
A couple months ago, I did a 2700 cartridge run of 9x19. Fortunately, my semi-auto pistols do not care about the rim size and I can sort out enough domestic case ammunition for the SP101.
I'll probably work at phasing out cases with foreign head stamps as they pass through the reloading process to make my life easier. Courtesy of Heir Obama and Madam Clinton policies I have lots of new Starline 9x19 brass on hand.
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