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I'm considering a Remington Model 700 in .308. I know all the reasons to buy a Remington Model 700, but I want to hear the reasons not to buy one.

Also, I had a gun store owner tell me that many other manufacturers actually use Remington's innards in their rifles. True? and if so which manufacturers?

Would anyone recommend a different manufacturer that has comparable price and pedigree with the same type rifles?
 
Remington's innards?

No not true.

A lot of custom rifle makers do use the 700 action as the basis of very accurate custom rifles.

No other big firearms manufacture that I know of buys "innerds" from Remington though!

The other rifle you should look at very hard in that price range is Savage.
They have no Remington Innerds in them though!

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Personally, I dont care for the triggers. Even the new ones. Must be a thousand aftermarket triggers though. I'd check out CZ and savage, I think both have better triggers, (CZ set trigger is awesome)though the 700's resale is probably better. I've heard rumors of inaccuracy in newer ones, but that is probably someone who cant get the cheap corelokt ammo into a 1/2" on the single day of the year when he shoots his rifle to check its zero. Its a tough rifle to argue against.
 
I don't have much experience, but I would say

# 1 reason, the price, $$$$.

Guess it depends how you intend to use it. Many claim there are much less $$$ rifles that adequately meet their needs, such as the Savage. They are all capable of taking deer.
 
I would agree 100% on the CZ if he wanted a .223.

But a .308, not so much.

I haven't seen the consistently stellar accuracy out of every 550 that you see out of the 527's.

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I've never had one that was accurate.

Get a Sako--Browning ----Tikka---Ruger---and your life will be a whole lot simpler.

I would recommend that you buy anything but a 700---that's how bad they are.
 
If you want to build a really good shooter - base it around the 700 action. If you want to just shoot it out of the box, I would strongly suggest looking at the Savage 10FCP with the HS Precision stock, or the McMillan.

Reason being the aftermarket support for the 700 action is awesome. But factory barrels are 1:12 twist with hammer rifling.

Savage factory is 1:10 with Button rifling. Many custom barrels for the 700 will be button rifled which Savage gives you from the factory.
 
I have my dad's old 700 in .30-06, and it seems like a dandy rifle to me. The trigger is very light, almost too light. But I'm no rifle expert by any stretch, so what do I know. Just seems like a good 'un to me. I have no idea what year vintage it is, probably late '70's.
 
I would recommend that you buy anything but a 700---that's how bad they are.
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I'll call BS on that one. Kinda strange that the Army, USMC, and most police sharpshooters use the 700 for their sniping needs, but I'm sure you know more than them. I personally have owned 8 model 700's of varying calibers, the worst one shot around .9 moa out of the box without any trigger work. My 5R shoots in the .4's, and honestly I'm probably the limiting factor there. I can see someone saying that maybe savage is a better buy dollar for dollar, since they also have great accuracy and on the whole are a little lower priced. However your statement amounts to an uninformed opinion of a person with an axe to grind.
 
The Army, USMC, and most police sharpshooters use the 700 for their sniping needs----All have worked over rifles.

An out of the box 700 is junk----and ya---I've owned a few---was stupid for ever buying the second one----I kept on buying into the Remington accuracy BS.
 
Every rifle has its ups and downs right out of the box, but the Remington 700 is a very good all-around rifle any way you look at it. As has been said, the aftermarket is one of its greatest attributes.

The last rifle I purchased was a 700 in 22-250, and it routinely shoots .5MOA...nothing to complain about.
 
The Army, USMC, and most police sharpshooters use the 700 for their sniping needs----All have worked over rifles.
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Wonder why they don't "work over" a browning or ruger and use that instead???


An out of the box 700 is junk----and ya---I've owned a few---was stupid for ever buying the second one----I kept on buying into the Remington accuracy BS.
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I guess it's you against the world buddy, that is not the statistical consensus on this or any other board.
 
They work over the cheapest piece of garbage they can find---as always---the gov't contract goes to the lowest bidder.

Did you really have to ask?:rolleyes:
 
Omaha-- mind if I ask whether your 700s had the aluminum bedded HS-precision stocks?

thanks

-T
 
There are a few regular posters that are extremely biased about a few weapons and cartridges, either for or against. Can't get away from it.
The only new rifle I had to return because it was defective was a Savage 110. It only fired once. Turned out the bolt was defective. The gun was assembled incorrectly. My next two bolt actions were 700's. No problems ever with a 700. I've had several. I suppose 1 in many thousands can have a problem once and be biased forever. I'm not going to blast the Savage because most guys have good luck with them. I might even buy one sometime. Oh wait, I already did.
 
They work over the cheapest piece of garbage they can find---as always---the gov't contract goes to the lowest bidder.
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Oh sorry, I didn't realize you were just a troll, I mistakenly thought you were capable of engaging in meaningful dialogue. I apologize for even responding to you the first time.
 
They work over the cheapest piece of garbage they can find---as always---the gov't contract goes to the lowest bidder.
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As a veteran I have to politely disagree with this. I read this a lot. I can think of hundreds of ways the govt. bought excellent quality stuff by the crate when I was enlisted. I remember opening wood crates FULL of Steiner binocs that I later learned cost $1200 in the civilian world. Our COLT M-16's would be considered excellent quality compared to most others as well. I don't think the military uses cheap junk by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I'd bet almost anything a soldier carries or uses is better than the quality the average civilian uses.

Remmy's rule the roost at my clubs benchrest matches.
 
I would recommend that you buy anything but a 700---that's how bad they are.

An out of the box 700 is junk
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From my experience of owning various tactical/varmint 700s in .308 and .223 I find the opposite to be true.

Many custom barrels for the 700 will be button rifled which Savage gives you from the factory.
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Any custom aftermarket barrel like Hart , Shilen , Lilja and a host of others will have been extensively hand lapped to produce a bore finish and dimensional uniformity that is simply not obtainable in a mass production rifle regardless of rifling method.

Although the Savage can be a great shooter out of the box , their barrels (or any mass produced factory barrel) are a far cry from a true custom match barrel. I do own a Savage 12BVSS and the bore finish is definitely not the smoothest!
 
Troll??

Hate to pull rank on ya---BUT who's been here going on 7 years and who's been here slightly over one??

Should be apologizing for wasting my time.
 
I've noticed some of the most biased have been here awhile and think number of posts mean something other than not much else to do. Just because you post alot doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
That's true of a few members.
 
alright lets not let this become a flame war

Back OT: From my research the biggest minus against the 700, as stated, is the trigger sucks. But there is also a huge aftermarket for the rifle, so it shouldn't be too bad to fix. I'm currently up in the air about getting a 700 or a savage atm
 
i just meant that its a common complaint that i've seen. I don't own one, nor would I know if it was bad since I haven't handled or shot enough to know
 
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