Remington 870 Supermag

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Ran into a Remington 870 supermag used at the shop Saturday and I know nothing about them. It was 175$ and seemed mechanically fine. Stock was obviously spray painted black and ugly as hell. Would be used as an all purpose shotgun, mostly hunting activities ranging from squirrel to black bear and sporting clays. What can you guys tell me about your experiences with them?
 
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Be advised some accessories for the 870 won't fit the SuperMag; that and what PapaG mentioned is why I sold mine and got a regular 3" 870.

At that price, I can't blame you for picking it up. It should work fine for what you want.
 
With 3 1/2" steel shot waterfowl loads recoil is stout, but tolerable. The 3 1/2" turkey loads will make you cry. Recoil is literally right up there with 458 WM and since the gun is so light it comes back at you FAST. I've never wanted a turkey bad enough to deal with that much recoil.

Standard 2 3/4" loads are fine and even 3" loads can be tolerated in small doses. I had one with a 23" turkey barrel for a while. I bought 1 box of the long turkey loads and only shot a few to decide I didn't like them. I eventually sold the gun.

If you like an 870 it is as good as any other and there is no rule saying you have to shoot the biggest shells. At that price it is hard to go wrong.
 
That looks like a good price and a good gun. I had one but I had a problem "short stroking" it. I was used to a standard 870 express and I guess the extra little bit of extra travel for the 3 1/2" shells was more than my feeble mind could overcome. I only fired maybe a half dozen of the 3 1/2" and decided it was more than I wanted insofar as recoil. I traded it off and mostly shoot 2 3/4" with occasional 3" which has about enough recoil for me. The gun itself ran fine, no problems.
 
But it will cycle shorter loads just fine right? I just want to make sure I could put 3” slugs through it during deer season and 2.75” steel game loads in there when squirrel season comes around.
 
The one I had would cycle everything just fine, never any problems. I did shoot a bunch of 2 3/4" thru it until I just went back to my 870 Express. I didn't see a need for the 3 1/2" for what shooting I do.
 
I had one and as stated with 3.5 mag shells it will kick the snot out of you.
 
This thread got me to thinking. I got out my Remington 870 Magnum and my 870 Express and compared them. The receiver of the 870 Express is about an inch longer than the receiver of the 870 Magnum. Does that mean that the Express has the same receiver as the Supermag?
 
You did good on that one, no matter what. It would be a catch-22 for me- I would want it because it has 3.5" ability for turkey, but I would be afraid to use it with 3.5" shells because my 3" 870 already about knocks me into the next time zone.
 
But it will cycle shorter loads just fine right? I just want to make sure I could put 3” slugs through it during deer season and 2.75” steel game loads in there when squirrel season comes around.
Yes, it will. There is more possibility of short-shucking it than a regular 870, but it's easily overcome by pumping vigorously. You have to use steel for squrriels, too? That must suck.

but I would be afraid to use it with 3.5" shells because my 3" 870 already about knocks me into the next time zone.

No worse than a 203, I think.
 
Yes, it will. There is more possibility of short-shucking it than a regular 870, but it's easily overcome by pumping vigorously. You have to use steel for squrriels, too? That must suck.
We don’t have to, but the guy who’s mainly teaching me to hunt recommended it so I don’t eat lead.

I’m a brand new hunter.
 
We don’t have to, but the guy who’s mainly teaching me to hunt recommended it so I don’t eat lead.

I’m a brand new hunter.

He'd rather you crack your teeth on steel? o_O

If he is really teaching you to hunt, he should be teaching you to aim at the squirrel's head with a .22. The only squirrels I've shot with a shotgun were incidental when hunting grouse or other birds. When I hunt squirrels, I use a .22, and hunt them. You learn to become a much better hunter that way. It's good practice for other types of hunting (deer), and teaches the most important quality needed for hunting; patience.

Do not fire at upward angles at squirrels with a rifle unless you have a solid backstop.

If you conduct a proper cleaning of the squirrel, you should be able to get all shot out of the body, anyway, whether steel or lead. It's pretty easy to see where a pellet has entered, you just follow it to either an exit hole, or extract it. Sort of like an autopsy on CSI.
 
The steel shot philosophy is to avoid lead contaminating the meat. He has hunted one season with a little success. I went out with him a few times, got my license with about a week left direct me squirrel season. We saw some but they were way more wiley than I anticipated. Didn’t get any either time we went.
 
The steel shot philosophy is to avoid lead contaminating the meat. He has hunted one season with a little success. I went out with him a few times, got my license with about a week left direct me squirrel season. We saw some but they were way more wiley than I anticipated. Didn’t get any either time we went.

I don’t know how to put it into words so I won’t try but I stand by my statement you need a new teacher. You will not get lead poisoning by eating game you’ve killed with lead shot. If that were the case there would be a lot of dead hunters every year.

I also agree with entropy about using a .22 for squirrel hunting.
 
Each time we went I used a 10/22. He used an 870. I very much believe you on the lead poisoning.

Like I said, he’s only hunted one whole season from September to the present, and I only since just before New Years. Squirrel season closed 1/2 and everything is closed here by now. We’re sort of learning together.

At this point, I think both of us are open to learning all we can!
 
You'd have to pepper a lot of squirrels with a lot of lead and then not retrieve it while cleaning them, before you would even have to worry about it. I think your friend has swallowed (pun intended) the poison of the more radical environmentalists. The regs requiring steel shot for waterfowl have been a Pyrrhic victory for the environmentalists, or at least surely were the first few years, as many time more ducks and geese were wounded and lost from the less effective steel shot than were saved from death by ingesting lead contaminated food. For land dwelling animals where leaching into the food source doesn't happen, it's self-defeating to use steel shot where not required. Lead injected into the meat by gunfire isn't inside the meat long enough to cause leaching, and I will personally attest that accidentally eating a lead pellet or two while eating game meat is potentially more harmful to your teeth than your body as a whole from lead poisoning. Steel pellets are even worse on teeth, btw.
 
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3 1/2" 00 buck 18 pellet would make an ideal defensive load in that gun. Nice price!
For grizziles, not necessary for HD. He's a newb, that's not very nice. Kinda like handing a 12 ga. to someone who's never shot one before and forgetting to tell them to put the stock on their shoulder. o_O
 
I will personally attest that accidentally eating a lead pellet or two while eating game meat is potentially more harmful to your teeth than your body as a whole from lead poisoning. Steel pellets are even worse on teeth, btw.

I work with issues concerning lead safety. Don’t discount the danger. Yes environmentalists tend to yell the sky is falling, but it doesn’t negate that we keep learning more and more about the harms from lead. Just this month the connection between lead and heart issues was announced.

Lead is most dangerous to pregnant women and young children. But it can also harm us and our pets. My own view is to exercise caution and do all we can to reasonably protect ourselves. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not disagreeing with you that enough could leech into an animal shot, but to make it out that no danger exists isn’t totally accurate. There’s a risk. A risk each of us has to decide if we’re willing to accept or not.

My recommendation is for people to learn all they can about lead and lead safety. Then use reasonable caution for the risk.
 
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