I am under the impression that Remington Caps ,#11, are slightly softer than CCI caps-is this correct?? Is the Remington cap slightly larger than the CCI cap?? In other words-would the Remington cap fit a little looser than a CCI cap on the same nipple?? I wanted to try the Remington cap,but I wanted to see what the more experienced BP shooters have to say. I can't find Remington caps in my neck of the woods. Thanks for help.Ernie
Remington Caps
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I think the Remington #11 caps are a thinner material (and sometimes split), they are slightly larger than CCI #11, and maybe shorter. I bought mine at Walmart after hunting season.
Just curious - has anyone tried the Tap O Cap (make your own caps)? I bought one ($20) and had pretty good luck with the home-made caps on my 1860 .44 (Pietta) but not on my other guns.
Just curious - has anyone tried the Tap O Cap (make your own caps)? I bought one ($20) and had pretty good luck with the home-made caps on my 1860 .44 (Pietta) but not on my other guns.
Pohill,
Man, I've been hunting all over for one of those Tap O Cap kits. Mind telling me where you found one? I'll be sure to tell all about what my experiences are with the caps I make if I can ever find a kit to mess around with...
It'll certainly put a stop to all the hazmat fees for ordering caps from online sites, too!
Man, I've been hunting all over for one of those Tap O Cap kits. Mind telling me where you found one? I'll be sure to tell all about what my experiences are with the caps I make if I can ever find a kit to mess around with...
It'll certainly put a stop to all the hazmat fees for ordering caps from online sites, too!
I'm pretty sure I bought it here:
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/search.asp?search=tap+o+cap&typ=All&mfg=Any&dept=Any
They're made by Forster Products in Lanark, Ill (815-493-6360), but they don't list them on their web site.
Making the caps is slow and tedious, but, like I said, they worked pretty well in my 1860 .44. You cut strips of metal from beer cans, punch out the caps, and use those little red rolled caps for ignition.
I'd call them to make sure they're not backordered.
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/search.asp?search=tap+o+cap&typ=All&mfg=Any&dept=Any
They're made by Forster Products in Lanark, Ill (815-493-6360), but they don't list them on their web site.
Making the caps is slow and tedious, but, like I said, they worked pretty well in my 1860 .44. You cut strips of metal from beer cans, punch out the caps, and use those little red rolled caps for ignition.
I'd call them to make sure they're not backordered.
I am with a western reeactment group who uses C&B Colts and Remmies quite a lot due to our demand for authenticity for certian time periods. We have found that CCI caps tend to jam up the guns more than the Remington caps. It seems the splits in the Remingtons actually aid the caps to fall of the nipple as a whole cap, thus, when using the old timers cocking technique, (tipping the barrel straight up when pulling the hammer back, thus allowing the cap to fall off if it is going to) malfunctions are held to a minimum. With the CCI's we find a lot of caps coming apart, and jamming up the works. You get an appreciation of the real oldtime gunfighters and lawmen who depended on these firearms, maintainence and attention to detail really meant life or death as an errant cap could really ruin you day.
But that's just my opinion,
CH
But that's just my opinion,
CH
I use Remington caps exclusively now. They're either softer or thinner. I have never had a Remington cap fail to fire but I had problems with CCI caps on some of my guns. I don't have any CCI caps handy to compare size, sorry.
Son of Sam, if you do a google search for the tap-o-cap thingy, you'll find several places selling it. I got curious about it several months back and looked it up. It's inexpensive, but after hearing so many negative reports about it, I decided against it.
Son of Sam, if you do a google search for the tap-o-cap thingy, you'll find several places selling it. I got curious about it several months back and looked it up. It's inexpensive, but after hearing so many negative reports about it, I decided against it.
I now shoot #10 Remington caps on my Pietta 1858 exclusively because I find them much better than CCI in both consistency and fit.
Didn't know you could make your own from beer cans. That's one raw material I seem to have a lot of!!!
Didn't know you could make your own from beer cans. That's one raw material I seem to have a lot of!!!
Remington #10s were about the same size as CCI 11s. The CCI caps are substantially thicker and require either a strong strike or agressive dowell seating to fire. On guns such as the Palmetto Lincoln Derringer and the shot barrel of the LeMat, ignition was problematic with either brand. This led me to thin the caps on a carborundum stone. It took roughly two times the number of strokes to reduce the cci caps as it did the remingtons.
There are a couple of retail stores in this area that used to stock remington caps. As early as a year ago, they were having difficulty getting them from their distributors and now none of the major distributors who serve this area have them. Midway kept them in stock until recently. Then the listed them as " Out of Stock NO BACKORDER." As of about three weeks ago, Midway stopped advertising reminton caps altogether.
I have been told that Remington percussion caps are a thing of the past. Retailers often say things like that simply because they don't have the requested product and are too lazy to order it. In this case, however, I have seen the distributors on- line lists and remington caps are not available.
There are a couple of retail stores in this area that used to stock remington caps. As early as a year ago, they were having difficulty getting them from their distributors and now none of the major distributors who serve this area have them. Midway kept them in stock until recently. Then the listed them as " Out of Stock NO BACKORDER." As of about three weeks ago, Midway stopped advertising reminton caps altogether.
I have been told that Remington percussion caps are a thing of the past. Retailers often say things like that simply because they don't have the requested product and are too lazy to order it. In this case, however, I have seen the distributors on- line lists and remington caps are not available.
I can't get #10 Rems here in France so have been 'importing' them via visiting friends from the UK. Haven't checked recently to see if I can still get them there. I have also used RWS which are OK. They cost about $6.90 per 100.
http://www.remington.com
there is a a black powder section but the only product remaining in the remington line is a primer - for inlines, I guess.
there is a a black powder section but the only product remaining in the remington line is a primer - for inlines, I guess.
About a month ago ..i made my uasual long drive to Bass Pro..about an hour .. bought 2 cases of #10 remington caps ...all i will use on my Remmies .
They didn`t say anything about Remington caps being out of stock anytime soon ...they had plenty ..seems more folks buy the CCI caps because they are 50 cents cheaper . I`ve had some greif useing CCi caps on my Remmies so i stick with what works every time ...not some of the time or most of the time .If they aren`t going to make the Remington caps anymore ...at least i`m good for a year ...I sure would hate to see them stop makeing them , I really enjoy shooting mine cap and ball much more than with the conversion cylinders .
They didn`t say anything about Remington caps being out of stock anytime soon ...they had plenty ..seems more folks buy the CCI caps because they are 50 cents cheaper . I`ve had some greif useing CCi caps on my Remmies so i stick with what works every time ...not some of the time or most of the time .If they aren`t going to make the Remington caps anymore ...at least i`m good for a year ...I sure would hate to see them stop makeing them , I really enjoy shooting mine cap and ball much more than with the conversion cylinders .
I've heard from several people around the country that Remington caps are becoming hard to find. I'd sure like to know what's going on. If they're going to stop making them, I'm going to try and stock in a long term supply. I don't like the CCI caps at all.
I probably shoot around 10,000 shots with BP guns per year. With my colt .36 alone I shoot around 400 shots per month. I have ran thousands of rounds through that gun, and have replaced many parts in it due to wear. I have more black powder guns than modern ones. Here is my list:
1851 Pietta .36
1858 Pietta .44 Target (very accurate pistol)
1858 ASM .44 brass frame (First BP revolver, have had it around 11 years. Still going!)
CVA Bobcat .50 (cheap, but fun)
Pedersoli Frontier Rifle .45 (best BP rifle I have owned.
Single shot .45 CVA (no sights, can't hit a thing with it, but it's fun)
I use Remington #10 caps in all of the revolvers, but I don't use Remington caps on my rifles. I like the #10s because they fit very well, easy to pinch them, and are reliable. However I do not like #11 Remingtons. They are very short and hard for me to handle. In my caper (inline) they will tip over because they are so short. I am using the Dynamit Nobels on my rifles.
1851 Pietta .36
1858 Pietta .44 Target (very accurate pistol)
1858 ASM .44 brass frame (First BP revolver, have had it around 11 years. Still going!)
CVA Bobcat .50 (cheap, but fun)
Pedersoli Frontier Rifle .45 (best BP rifle I have owned.
Single shot .45 CVA (no sights, can't hit a thing with it, but it's fun)
I use Remington #10 caps in all of the revolvers, but I don't use Remington caps on my rifles. I like the #10s because they fit very well, easy to pinch them, and are reliable. However I do not like #11 Remingtons. They are very short and hard for me to handle. In my caper (inline) they will tip over because they are so short. I am using the Dynamit Nobels on my rifles.
Alot of dang shootin
Yep Sixgun ..between me and the wife ..we go through 100 lbs of lead ..2 cases of caps and 25 cans of goex ..every year for the last 4 years ...We both belong to 2 different Black Powder Clubs ...each one has a club shoot once a month for long rifles ...on the off weekends we both shoot our Remmies ..and my 45/70 . Been meaning to start shooting at the local SASS club too ....but haven`t found the time , one of the Black Powder Clubs is 5 mins. from my place .....and to keep me form shooting SASS they started haveing club shoots for the Cap and Ball pistols , and the lever guns , and skeet shoots with black powder shot guns .......It`s been a great hobby ...........funny thing first time 4 years ago for her she thought she was going to picnic and watch the shoot ... Both Clubs we are in have alot of women shooters ....and theses gals can shoot ...
Yep Sixgun ..between me and the wife ..we go through 100 lbs of lead ..2 cases of caps and 25 cans of goex ..every year for the last 4 years ...We both belong to 2 different Black Powder Clubs ...each one has a club shoot once a month for long rifles ...on the off weekends we both shoot our Remmies ..and my 45/70 . Been meaning to start shooting at the local SASS club too ....but haven`t found the time , one of the Black Powder Clubs is 5 mins. from my place .....and to keep me form shooting SASS they started haveing club shoots for the Cap and Ball pistols , and the lever guns , and skeet shoots with black powder shot guns .......It`s been a great hobby ...........funny thing first time 4 years ago for her she thought she was going to picnic and watch the shoot ... Both Clubs we are in have alot of women shooters ....and theses gals can shoot ...
From about 1880 to around 1910 target shooting at ranges was a big time women's sport too. From what I have read there were lots of the ladies that were good shots. They never mention why it waned it popularity among women.
Annie Oakley was an active shooter and promoter of shooting for women until shortly before her death in 1926. She drew quite a bit of attention because she was a feminist but not a communist.
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mec, Remington did recently introduce their new Genesis muzzle loading rifle although it does require a #209 primer.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/muzzleloaders/
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/muzzleloaders/
I just spent some time on the Remington site trying to find an e.mail address because I was going to mail them and ask about caps availability. It's easier platting fog!
Maybe one of you could phone them and ask the question than post the reply. It's a bit expensive phoning from France!
Maybe one of you could phone them and ask the question than post the reply. It's a bit expensive phoning from France!
No "Primer Panic" here in Cincy
Howdy All,
I've read some posts about Remington suposedly discontinuing #11 and #10 caps. My local Bass Pro was out of stock right after the Holidays. They have since restocked and have plenty of Remington caps at the Cincinnati Mills store north of Cincinnati.
Bad news is...price has gone up about 20 % !
My TRM nipples are about 99.99% reliable with Remmie #11 caps.
Just about as good as a Cap-N-Baller can get!
Happy Trails,
Cincinnati Slim
Howdy All,
I've read some posts about Remington suposedly discontinuing #11 and #10 caps. My local Bass Pro was out of stock right after the Holidays. They have since restocked and have plenty of Remington caps at the Cincinnati Mills store north of Cincinnati.
Bad news is...price has gone up about 20 % !
My TRM nipples are about 99.99% reliable with Remmie #11 caps.
Just about as good as a Cap-N-Baller can get!
Happy Trails,
Cincinnati Slim
Which size Remington caps would you recommend for an Uberti 1860 Army .44 - 10 or 11?
Thanks,
John
Thanks,
John
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