Discussion in 'Activism' started by hso, Feb 2, 2011.
What state would that be Ryanxia?
Reply from Sen. Dick Durbin
Can't say I didn't expect this. Still have yet to hear back from Sen. Mark Kirk but he seems to be a strong anti as well.
"Response" From CO Gov Hickenlooper
tl;dr "Issues are important to me. I will think about issues. Thank you for writing, XOXO A Robot"
Thank you for writing regarding gun control in Colorado. This is an important subject, and we appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts and concerns.
Throughout the past six months in Colorado and across the nation, we have experienced an unprecedented level of tragedy due to gun violence. The shooting that occurred in Aurora on the night of July 20th is an event that will remain in our hearts and minds forever. And while our lives will never be the same again, these experiences showed the strength and resilience of individuals to come together as a community. Now, as a community, we must come together to discuss ways we can prevent similar tragedies in the future.
Your letter is one of thousands we have received expressing sympathy and sharing your opinions on everything from banning assault weapons, to increasing mental health availability, to the rights of citizens to carry concealed weapons. The diversity of opinions on how best to address this issue is proof positive that we should not shy away from this discussion. We are confident that through thoughtful and mindful debate we can find reasonable solutions that respect the rights of law-abiding Coloradans to own firearms while maintaining the health and safety of our communities.
This is a multifaceted issue and part of this dialogue should focus on mental health access. So, we have asked the Colorado General Assembly to support a comprehensive overhaul of our state’s mental health system so we can better identify and help people who are a threat to themselves and others.
This is a conversation that will continue throughout the course of this legislative session, so we also encourage you to share your thoughts with your legislators. To contact the House of Representatives, please call 303-866-2904. To contact the Senate, please call 303-866-2316. These contacts will direct your call to the appropriate office. Or, you can find your legislators online at http://www.colorado.gov/esri/webmaps/my-hood.html?webmap-id=a4838d49acca478e82f453d209bc81d9
Once again, thank you for your input, and for taking the time to contact our office. We will keep your thoughts in mind as we move forward.
Office of Governor John W. Hickenlooper
Ok, that's scripted by a functionary that doesn't have an opinion on the issue themselves.
Reply from Senator Carl Levin
This is pretty much what I expected. He's been anti-gun his whole career. Sure wish we could get this guy voted out of office.
Expected and disappointing.
I'll ping him again for specific bills and ask why the CDC couldn't find any meaningful improvement from the AWB, as well as remind him of one very specific result of the previous AWB, firing a bunch of idiots who voted for it.
response from Jan 14th, it seems that others have received different responses
Better, although I'll still be pinging on him for specific bills and to ask why he injected some nonsense about hunting into a discussion on RKBA.
I'll also ask min, "as a life long hunter" why he isn't ridiculing the idiots who claim that .223/5.56 "assault weapons" are powerful, when he MUST be using something more powerful to hunt anything larger than a coyote.
I blame the Ohio republican party for this one.
Marcy OWNS that seat in the HoR, last time the GOP put "Joe the plumber" up against Kaptur, they're not even trying to unseat her. I'm not exactly a fan of the GOP, but Kaptur needs to go.
Response from Sen. Rubio
I wrote many letters to Florida democratic and republican Senators and Representatives. Mr. Rubio is the only one that responded.
Thank you for writing me regarding the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I understand this is an important issue and I appreciate hearing your thoughts.
The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I hold the fundamental belief the Second Amendment should not be altered. At the same time, I have always been open to measures that would keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill.
In light of the recent tragedies, some have suggested restricting gun ownership and have suggested ways to curb gun violence. I am always open to ideas on how to stop violent crimes, however I have concerns when these suggestions are solely directed toward restricting gun ownership. Given the Constitution's clear stance on gun ownership, I will continue to support an individual's right to own firearms.
It is an honor and a privilege to serve you as your United States Senator. I appreciate you offering your opinion on this issue. If I can ever be of any assistance to you, please do not hesitate to contact me.
United States Senator"
Sen. Rubio writes a nice letter!
Senator Rob Portman's Reply
Received this recently:
Not a very strong letter. Some have suggested that Sen. Portman has waivered in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shootings. This letter makes me wonder. What do you think?
I sent the form letter provided at Ruger's site , and got this response from MI Senator Carl Levin (bolds/highlights are my additions):
I also got a response from Senator Debbie Stabenow, which was much more succinct and basically summed up as
How does this letter make yoy wonder? He says that he thinks new gun control goes against the second amendment
The letters that I have received all seem to indicate that he is strongly for the RKBA. I think he is firmly on our side....
Not bad, but I would write a response to him and let him know you don't support what they're calling "universal background checks". He might be on board with that at this point and we need to make sure that doesn't go through.
See NRA's response to universal background checks.
Make sure you let him know that if he stands for our Rights we will stand for him and if he doesn't we will work passionately to unseat him in his reelection.
Time to tell him if he won't stand up for your Rights you will work passionately to unseat him during the reelection, then actually do it when the time comes.
Send it back with red paint over his writing saying
"READ MY LETTER AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY NEXT TIME DOOFUS!"
i.e. Not a form letter...
I'm getting pretty fed up by the notion that our Second Amendment rights are to preserve our firearm ownership for some "sporting purpose". Does anyone know when the idea that our right to firearms ownership became so strongly espoused to the fiction that our firearms are meant to be used primarily for recreation?
I understand that 30-40% of firearm crimes against cops (already separated them from the rest of us = elitist posture) use high-capacity magazines, but what percentage of firearms sold also just happen to have high-capacity handguns. I would bet a disproportionate majority of handguns sold can hold in excess and are designed around a magazine that holds in excess of ten rounds.
Does anyone have an accurate figure of how many times annually a firearm is used to deter or altogether stop a criminal act? Does anyone keep statistics on that kind of thing?
Yes, that would make sense until you showed us what it takes (how little it takes) to become a person on a terror watch list. And that would make even more sense if there had been some sort of evidence to back up that these terrorists (not just drug dealers and thugs) were buying up weapons and using them to make terror. I'm not exactly a conspiracy theorist, but I haven't noticed a whole lot of terrorism happening. The couple times I can recall the would-be terrorists failed out of incompetence, not preventative action; and they didn't try to use a firearm, either.
I'll act by arming myself and practicing as often as occasion permits (well, as soon as I can buy some more ammo). You talk about common sense but refuse to acknowledge that shootings happen in gun-free zones and places where firearms are lawfully prohibited by businesses (see movie theaters) that would otherwise be less-than-optimal targets if there were armed individuals there to defend those positions. If we really wanted to protect people from mass shootings we would get rid of the places that mass shootings are most likely to occur, not write something down on paper and put up a sign that reminds the would-be murderer that none of his/her potential victims has been empowered to shoot back
Not to hate on cops, but when I hear something about a law enforcement officer coming out saying he/she is opposed to concealed carry, opposed to individuals owning semi-automatic, military-styled rifles I'm inclined to think this officer/official has the wrong idea about the citizens he serves. I had this kind of discussion with a criminal procedure law professor and the local chief of police. They forget the Constitution is there to protect and define our inalienable rights, the right to keep and bear arms being our right to defend ourselves from whatever evil may come upon us, whether the individual or the entity, and that by limiting when, where and what we may own to perform that task should not be open to debate. Yes, I think that we the people should be able to own full-automatic rifles (and we are as long as we pay the tax) unless we have proven ourselves to be a threat to the community.
Then what's the deal with these dimwits coming out so strongly against barrel shrouds?
Make sure your representatives understand that if they support our Rights (like their oath says they should) we will support them. If they don't we will work passionately to unseat them. And come next reelection we need to do just that if they are not on our side.
The letter shown by akv3g4n is what I got from him a few weeks ago. The one I posted is the one I got a few days ago. Much more docile language.
There have been reports that Sen. Portman may be one of the pro 2nd Amendment types who is considering switching over. Like this article in the USA TODAY.
It's not that he said anything WRONG in the letter, it's that his stand isn't as strong as it has traditionally been (from my past correspondence with his office.)
Too bad CO went from a nice conservative state when I moved here into a trending hard left. The state house and senate are all dems and are actively voting against allowing people to defend themselves. Sadly it's becomming CA here.
Interesting reply. Unfortunately Mike's district was totally redrawn. He went from ~70% support to barely winning this last time. I've liked him a lot in the past. This reply looks like CYA.
Senator Michael Bennet's (CO) Reply
Dear Dr. Ellis:
Thank you for contacting me regarding some of the different gun proposals that have been introduced during the 113th Congress, including S.2 introduced by Senator Harry Reid, S.150 introduced by Senator Diane Feinstein, and the proposal put forth by President Obama. I appreciate hearing from you.
The numerous tragedies that our nation has had to face over the past year have been staggering. My own family, like all Americans, has been repeatedly shocked and deeply saddened by the violence we have witnessed, and my heart continues to be with the victims and their families. As Coloradans, we know how this type of tragedy can shake a community to its core and in the aftermath of these abhorrent acts our priority should be on supporting the survivors and families, and healing our communities.
We must have a real discussion in this country about finding ways to stop these senseless shootings. I believe a combination of improved access to mental health services, restrictions on certain weapons intended for warfare, and elimination of the gun show loophole are sensible steps that can protect our communities and particularly, our children. In Colorado, we support the right to bear arms and the ability of people to recreate, hunt, and protect their homes, and we want to keep the wrong weapons out the hands of the wrong people. I believe we can have a civil discussion that addresses these issues and as the recommendations by the President's task force are considered in Congress, we will ensure that Colorado's voices are heard.
In addition to the bills referenced above, there are a number of different legislative proposals on gun policy currently before Congress. I am evaluating all of the different bills, and I will keep your thoughts in mind as we work on this issue in the Senate. Let us all continue to keep the communities affected by these tragic acts in our thoughts and prayers.
I value the input of fellow Coloradans in considering the wide variety of important issues and legislative initiatives that come before the Senate. I hope you will continue to inform me of your thoughts and concerns.
For more information about my priorities as a U.S. Senator, I invite you to visit my website at http://bennet.senate.gov/. Again, thank you for contacting me.
Michael F. Bennet
United States Senator
We HAVE been working to kick him out of office. But as long as the Metro Detroit area continues to back his welfare state agenda, they will continue to overturn the votes of the rest of the state.
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