Restoring Remington Rolling Block #1

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I have a Remington rolling block single shot rifle that was bought by my GGrandfather new in about 1878. The finish was entirely gone, just a few remnants of the case color around the pins on the receiver. The rest was a uniform brown, with no rust or pits. The barrel had visible rifling, but was totally unshootable. The forearm was missing, replaced by a hand carved piece of oak. The buttstock was scorched in a fire and the worst parts dressed up with a file.

After looking a this thing sitting in various gun cases for about 55 years, I decided to restore it. As it was, it had no monetary value other than for parts. But it did have some sentimental value. I figured the metal could be refinished easily. The stocks could be replaced if I could find reproductions. But what would I do about the barrel?

Well, to make a long story shorter, I found some repro stocks and bought them. I figured whoever I got to do the barrel work could easily do the metal refinishing. But how could that barrel be fixed? The first step was to find out exactly what cartridge it was supposed to shoot. The barrel was stamped with just a "38" on the underside. My dad said he used to shoot ".38 pistol cartirdges" in it. I started looking at old .38 cartridge specs and came to the conclusion that it had to have been a .38 Long rimfire originally (Did I mention the shade-tree rimfire to centerfire conversion that had been done on it?) I found that the .38 Long rimfire was only a thousandth or two different on any case or bullet dimension from a .38 Special. Interesting. But if I got the barrel rebored I'd have to go bigger, maybe .45 Colt? Nah, that just didn't seem right. Maybe some black powder rifle cartridge like a.45-70? Not after I looked at ammo prices. So it occurred to me why not keep it fairly original, but make it stronger and use the similar .38 Special cartridge. For that matter, why not chamber it for .357 Magnum? Now we're beginning to get somewhere! But how do you accomplish that with an old black powder rifle and keep the same receiver and barrel? Liners! I found TJ's in New Jersey. They shipped out a 30" piece of .357 Mag liner in 4140 steel to my gunsmith for about $120. Speaking of gunsmiths, not just anybody does barrel relining. It took me a while to find an expert who would and could do the work.

So at this point the rifle is still at the gunsmith. It's been lined and rechambered for .357 Mag. The breech block has been cleaned up, removing the old firing pin hole and bushing the centerfire one for a modern firing pin, and all the screws and little dings in the metal are being cleaned up. When it's ready for case color and bluing it'll be shipped back to me for the new wood to be fitted, then it's back to the gunsmith for the final metal finishing.

I'm thinking this going to be a VERY sweet rifle for plinking and maybe even deer hunting. The gunsmith assures me the action would be safe with much higher power cartridges, and with the liner the barrel will be fine with .357 Mag too. He's already test fired it (I'm jealous). All of this work and parts is going to run me about $1500 by the time it's done. So what do you guys think? Am I on the right track here, or will it be just a nice looking curiosity to hang on the wall?
 
Sounds good to me. It will be functionally the same as when Grandpa bought it new, just more powerful. But the game is tougher these days, you know.
 
OK, I'll be the first. YOU RUINED AN ORIGINAL PATINA'D RIFLE!! Ok, now that's out of the way, you just added more to the story of the rifle when it is handed down to your grandchildren. I just had the opportunity to take a look at an old family RRB that had been converted to a shotgun. NOTHING was stamped on the barrel, but it looked like either a 16 or 20 ga. Cool shotgun, but I could not talk them out of it.
 
"OK, I'll be the first. YOU RUINED AN ORIGINAL PATINA'D RIFLE!!"

:neener: Good one!!!:)

It's only worth what someone would pay for it *IF* I was willing to sell it. It's never getting sold, no matter what. I could buy similar rolling blocks all day long for $300, but not ones that have been in the family for 4 generations.;)

I'll post some pictures when it's done, maybe even as I go.
 
Here's a picture of what this rifle would look like in decent shape:

 

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Here are some pics of the finished product. Got it back after almost 18 months of work. Total cost - $2500.

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Now you have not only the family history, but a very-very nice looking rifle !!

You did it right and it shows . I would love to shoot it .
 
Congratulations! You brought a family heirloom back to life with style and class. The wood is beautiful, I especially enjoy the original fore-end tip and 'rifle' buttplate. If the Old Remington smiths could see it they would be proud.

I hope your family gets to enjoy it for another four generations.
 
It is a dream to shoot with .357 Mag or .38 Spc ammo. I chrono'd it at 1785 fps with .357 Mag ammo. The Marble's folding leaf rear sight makes it very accurate at longer ranges. Thanks for the compliments. I think great granddad would be proud.
 
I agree, your Granddad would for sure be proud. Very nice jog Sir, it's ready for another 4 or more generations. Too bad I won't be around to see the posts on this forum in 2112 showing this great rifle your great-grandson just inherited that's been in the family for 8 generations!
 
Really, really a good thing you stuck at there ! Is that a #1 or #2 Remington? Kudos to you sir, money well spent!:)
 
Jim Dubell at Delta Gun Shop in Colville, WA did the bulk of the work. He's a custom rifle maker who has done some amazing projects. He loves old rolling blocks. They can do barrels from scratch, rebore to larger caliber, or re-line an old barrel that has seen better days.

Jim went over the whole rifle with a draw file to remove minor rust pitting and sharpen up the corners, and at the same time preserve the patent stamps, etc. I really wanted to save the tapered octagon barrel. I don't know where you would find a new one like that these days. I wanted to keep it .38 caliber, so Jim bored out the barrel and slipped a .357 liner into it. He also removed some minor dings, an "aftermarket" dovetail, and manufactured some replacement screws. He also modified the breech block to make it a real centerfire instead of the 1910 shade tree conversion.

Jim takes his time and does brilliant work at a reasonable price. Don't be in a hurry.:)
 
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This is a genuine #1 Remington rolling block sporter. Most people sort out a #1 from a #1-1/2 by measuring the thickness of the receiver. I was given the two thicknesses by some RRB experts (Roy Marcot among them) and found that my rifle fell between the two numbers. When I enquired further they said, "Oh! Then it's a REAL sporter, not a military conversion." The sporter version receiver thickness falls in between the #1-1/2 and the military #1.
 
Oh, and the replacement stocks came 90% inletted from Treebone Carving in New Mexico. They're quarter sawn American walnut. George Peterson is also a pleasure to work with, and he has stock patterns for lever guns, highwalls, and even the oddball sporter rolling blocks.
 
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