Restricting Cold Medicine Won't Curb Meth Use

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Restricting Cold Medicine Won't Curb Meth Use

Thursday, June 16, 2005

By Radley Balko

Despite 30 years and many billions of dollars spent on the Drug War, America’s appetite for illicit drugs really hasn’t subsided. It merely shifts, as the same drugs (or incarnations of them) come in and out of vogue.

Inevitably, reaction from media, politicians and regulators to a particular drug’s fashionability are overblown and do little to diminish actual abuse. Instead, efforts to thwart drug use often result in costly, needless hassling of law-abiding people that chip away at civil liberties (see the DEA’s relentless pursuit of Oxycontin-prescribing physicians, for example).

The latest drug panic is over the rising use of methamphetimine. This time, the outrage seems to stem from the fact that some meth users not only make stuff in their own garages, but that a key ingredient, pseudoephedrine, can be derived from common cold and allergy medicines found in the local pharmacy.

Lawmakers across the country have predictably jumped into over-reaction. The state of Oklahoma – where meth use is soaring – acted first. Last year, the state passed a law requiring pharmacies to move cold and allergy medications behind the counter. Stores without pharmacies can no longer sell the drugs. Similar laws put limits on the amount of medication one customer can buy in a given period of time, and require customers to show identification and sign a registry before purchase. Those registries, of course, then need to be maintained and monitored.

About a dozen other states have or are about to follow Oklahoma’s lead. Congress is set to act, too. Sens. Jim Talent, R-Mo. and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., have introduced federal legislation patterned after the law in Oklahoma.

But even the government's own data suggests that these laws won’t work, and won't significantly curb the supply of meth or its use. In some ways, they’ll likely only make the problem worse. They’ll put recreational meth users into more frequent contact with smugglers and traffickers, likely sparking increases in black market violence.

According to the DEA’s own website, most of this country’s meth comes not from garage laboratories in the Midwest, but from clandestine “superlabs” in California and Mexico. These labs smuggle pseudoephedrine in bulk from Mexico and Canada and use it to manufacture street methempamphetamine, which they then distribute across the country. Cold and allergy medicine never enters the picture. It’s almost certain that these superlabs would compensate for any small dip in the meth supply caused by limiting homemade “meth cooks’” access to pseudoephedrine.

Laws like Talent-Feinstein and similar bills in statehouses across the country do little more than inconvenience cold and allergy sufferers. They also create yet another way for authorities to monitor and track our consumer habits. These laws also likely make common cold medicine more expensive for stores to stock and, therefore, more expensive for customers to buy. The registries and purchasing procedures will lead to longer lines at the pharmacy, particularly during cold and allergy season.

Supporters of these laws commonly point to the alleged success local authorities have had since the law in Oklahoma was passed. Noting the Oklahoma law, Talent and Feinstein wrote recently in the Washington Post that efforts there produced “an 80 percent drop in the number of meth labs seized. This law works. We should copy it.”

But note the metric Talent and Feinstein choose to measure the law’s success: “meth labs seized.” It’s an odd goalpost. It says nothing about actual meth use in the state, just the number of labs dismantled by law enforcement. The number of Oklahomans using meth may not have dropped at all (an official figure isn’t yet available). It's very possible that the law has made Oklahoma's meth users turn to smugglers and traffickers to get their fix instead of cooking their own drugs at home. I’m not sure that’s an improvement.

Supply of controlled substances always rises to meet demand. It’s similar to the air in a balloon. You can squeeze the supply on one end, but the air inevitably pops up again elsewhere. The total volume of air in the balloon never changes.

Indeed, City University of New York pharmacologist John P. Morgan told Reason magazine’s Jacob Sullum last January, “If the curtailment of [pseudoephedrine] works, such success will be temporary. Another method of manufacture or other supply will be found.”

Sullum himself adds, “After the precursor phenyl-2-propanone was restricted in 1980, traffickers switched to ephedrine; when large quantities of ephedrine became harder to come by in the late ’90s, they switched to pseudoephedrine.”

Of course, the very reason we have a meth problem is because Drug War policies have made similar drugs like cocaine more expensive (though by no means eradicated). Meth is in fact sometimes called “the poor man’s cocaine.” Step on the “cocaine” part of the balloon, and the air pops up elsewhere, as meth.

If Talent and Feinstein get their way, it will soon be impossible to buy common cold and allergy medication containing pseudoephedrine at stores that don’t have pharmacies. At stores that do, you’ll be asked to present identification and sign a registry, which will be monitored. Buy too much, and you could find yourself subject to investigation. Between sniffles, if your head’s clear enough, keep in mind that these hurdles lawmakers have thrown between you and cold-allergy relief will do little, if anything, to curb the actual use of illicit methamphetamine.

So long as we’re getting hassled, I suppose, at least we know that our lawmakers are doing something. Never mind that what they’re doing is misdirected, ineffective and likely to create more problems than it solves.

Radley Balko maintains a Weblog at: www.TheAgitator.com.

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So long as we?re getting hassled, I suppose, at least we know that our lawmakers are doing something. Never mind that what they?re doing is misdirected, ineffective and likely to create more problems than it solves.
That - in a nutshell - is about all the ''drug war'' is about these days. Pity lessons seem to have never been learned from the prohibition era!! :rolleyes:
 
I'm not worried.

If I ever do really feel "the need for speed", I'll just conspire with my niece (who's 10) to get me a couple of her Adderals.

I'm not kidding. Why make yer own, when small children have the best, pharmaceutical grade stuff available? Oh, I know you might have to get their parents to go along, but that's prolly an easy social hack, considering that they're (a lot of them) gullible enough to drug their kids on scant, or no, evidence that doing so is actually helpful.
 
Indeed. Just like how I hang onto generic vicodin tablets after surgery? That way if I ever REALLY hurt myself (say with a short eye relief on a scope :cuss: ), I'll have some beefier stuff available. I certainly don't abuse it, as I've not found any "recreational" side-effects. It kills pain effectively for me, and that's it. No getting loopy or anything.

Remember folks, laws like this aren't about actually producing any tangible benefit, they're about the politicians looking good for their constituients.
 
Agreed.

More of my money wasted, more trouble for me,
bigger, more dangerous black market,
bigger, more dangerous government bureaucracy,
no measurable positive impact.
 
... considering that they're (a lot of them) gullible enough to drug their kids on scant, or no, evidence that doing so is actually helpful.
Ain't that the truth. I still have vivid memories of watching my sibling spin and flail in the front yard, screaming about the bee's attacking her. Only there were no bees. Her fool of a physician put her on Ritalyn when she was seven.

Wally world here in Colorado keeps the stuff behind the counter as well, but no ID/registry. Yet. Guess I better stock up now, even though I only need around this time of year when the Littleleaf Lindens are in bloom.
More of my money wasted, more trouble for me, bigger, more dangerous black market, bigger, more dangerous government bureaucracy, no measurable positive impact.
Sure there is. More $$$ and control for those in power. OK, it is not positive for US, but it sure is for those in power. :cuss:
 
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(sarcasm)I don't care if they ban Sudafed since I don't have allergies and I don't use it but they'd better not think of trying to ban my Nyquil. I love Nyquill. I understand you can even take it when you are sick. (/sarcasm)
 
I actually agree for once with the rest of you on a drug related topic.

My state just passed a law requiring a photo I.D. to buy cold medicine which now has to be kept by the pharmacist. The same governor that praised this law is the one who vetoed a recent law requiring a photo ID to vote because it would bring hardship to the poor, the sick, and the old people. :scrutiny: :rolleyes:
 
Umm, not that I have any particular objection

.. to ingesting things which actually *do* improve the functioning of one's brain, or other parts. Does anyone make an OTC drug against anxiety which works at least as well as alcohol, but without those nasty side effects?

(You know the ones; drunkenness, brain and liver and general systemic damage, bad social behavior, posting on BBSs in the middle of the night...)
 
Does anyone make an OTC drug against anxiety which works at least as well as alcohol, but without those nasty side effects?
IMAO, adrenaline works GREAT for that. ID your deepest fear, then overcome it by doing exactly that. For me, it was heights. So I went skydiving. After surviving those five minutes or so of abject terror, very little make me anxious any more.
 
Not for me.

It's been all stress all day every day for me here for the last decade or so. I don't think I really have adrenal glands anymore, just these burnt, smoking cinders on top of my kidneys.

Wait! The topic! Oh, yeah, I think that's a really stupid law, too. Pretty soon now, I betcha we won't be allowed to buy scissors with points on them. Already, you can't buy lye, or strike-anywhere matches in the stores around here.

How the heck can you prepare hydrogen easily without access to lye? Or make soap, either?
 
Ahhh... Nyquill. The Coughing, Scratching, Aching, Sneezing, wake up on the kitchen floor medicine.

LOL! I remember my mother giving me Comtrex when I was about 7 or 8 when the stuff still contained codeine. I made it about 4 steps before I fell flat on my face. :D
 
Why make yer own, when small children have the best, pharmaceutical grade stuff available?
:D

My parents can't believe that i'm actually PRESCRIBED amphetamines (they keep saying about how they had to walk twenty miles uphill both ways for drugs in their day, or something....)

Anyway, if Charleston does pass that nonsensical law, the FIRST thing I am doing after it comes into effect is purchase about, ten thousand (maybe less, cost willing) boxes of sudafed (my nose is stuffy like you wouldn't believe).
 
Depending on you're medical condition, you can get some good stuff. :) Problem is that some of it is as addictive as cocaine. :( Not to mention cocaine is cheaper and easier to get than some perscriptions (That actualy do something good.) as well. :barf:
 
You are likely to see laws restricting the purchase of ephedrine and pseudoephedrine containing drugs in almost all states. The new laws seem to be pointed toward more stringent enforcement and penalties. The problem is the manufacture of the drugs in the illegal labs in homes, motel rooms, apartments, etc. If you own rental properties, this is something to pay attention to! $$$$$

Here in Tennessee, the TN laws emulate such laws as in California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, and New Mexico. As of July 1st, the state has the legal authority to quarantine properties where meth labs or properties that have all the componets where there is an intent to manufacture the drug for personal or sale. Once quarantined, a property has to be cleanup and tested by professionals and it can be costly-typically in the range of $1500 to $10,000 depending on the degree of contamination. In some cases, it is cheaper to demo the place when the lab is in a manufactured home. Up until now, the laws were on the books, but the legal authorities were hesitant to quarantine a property. That has changed. The presence of a meth lab will be placed on the deed until it is removed following cleanup. It will certainly be a major impediment to the sale of property in the future. I do the cleanups, so I know something about these things.

Penalties were increased to 30 Years imprisonment just like cocaine depending on the situation. It is a big problem in Tennessee. Some of the rural counties of TN are also well known for pot growing. Meth is a special case, because of the hazards of manufacture, exposure to chemicals to small children, etc. Burn victims are flagged at hospitals like gun shot victims for further investigation.

I repeat, if you own rental property, screen your renters carefully! Insurance does not cover the cost. This is important!
 
Oh, I know you might have to get their parents to go along...

Do you? Or will the state just decide that the kids need to be on these meds and prescribe/administer them without the parent's knowledge or consent.

After that poor family in Corpus Christi last week, I'm finding myself very concerned about the state's design for my kids.
 
well why anyone would need to buy ten packs of sudafed at once is beyond me, and worse- of course it wont curb meth production.

the people making it from pills are total low life nothings.
a 19 year old girl was telling me about making it a few days ago.
one messed up kid, sad, lost cause. watching all her friends die already.

anyway, its mostly desperate losers making it for themsleves, or in small batches.
real labs get real chemmies from mexico or H angels.
they get it by the pound- and you dont use the crappy red phosphate in sudafed.

that stuff is disgusting. went to NY for a few months once, come back my best friend here is deep in it.
the people keeping it prevalent on the street, the ones making real money dont get parts form wal mart. they get it wholesale like real mobbers.

thank God he got off that crap. you never seen a worse set of people. crackheads are easier to deal with.

so limiting cold med buys- does at least keep inexperienced idiots from making incredibly extra nasty drugs -the kind that really kill fast, make people ugly.

they come up with red, brown, yellow, pink, maybe maybe white/
all garbage nasty chems.
at least the real speed is crystal meth- clear crystal. less toxic extras.
erpsonally , wouldnt go near the garbage. knew enough from watching cokeheads ruin their lives in NY. but i have seen way too much of the results here. a high as heck loser yelling at me-
FULL RIG hanging IN HIS ARM!!!
oh tweakers, i could go on forever, i hate them
 
Already, you can't buy lye, or strike-anywhere matches in the stores around here.

Why can't you buy lye? I have a hobby of makeing my own soap. It takes lard, water and LYE. Of course you can make your own lye water using wood ashes and water.
 
I miss the strike-anywhere matches. I have only seen them at gun shows in the past 5 years. I feel SOOOOOOOOOOO much safer that they're so hard to find. :rolleyes:
 
DISCLAIMER! - I am NOT defending this practice!!!

Supporters of these laws commonly point to the alleged success local authorities have had since the law in Oklahoma was passed. Noting the Oklahoma law, Talent and Feinstein wrote recently in the Washington Post that efforts there produced “an 80 percent drop in the number of meth labs seized. This law works. We should copy it.”

But note the metric Talent and Feinstein choose to measure the law’s success: “meth labs seized.” It’s an odd goalpost. It says nothing about actual meth use in the state, just the number of labs dismantled by law enforcement.

The writer seems to think that the only illegal activity is the use of Meth, not the manufacture. If LEO's only have to deal with 20% of the Meth labs, that does account for something, does it not? Hazmat called out 80% less, less children having Meth cooked in their home, less neighborhood labs blowing up, etc.

I'm NOT supporting banning pseudoephedrine, or even locking it up, but you can see why they might be eager to copy the law if they are seeing some sort of success.
 
The manufacture of Meth is going across the border to Mexico. I recently read an article where the importation of the psuedophedrine was up 400% in Mexico last year. It ain't going to cold medicine makers either.

It is so unfortunate that the business of fighting drugs is more of a business than anything else. The reduction in meth labs in the US probably gets local law enforcement more money for some sort of alleged success. Government measurements always seem to create perverted or unintended consequences or results.

If the US dealt with drug dealers harshly, like many foreign countries do, the problem could actually be fixed.

I spent a year in Turkey in the Air Force. Upon arrival at a small detachment on a Turkish Air Force Base one of the first things you were required to do was to read Midnight Express. The prison where the author spent time was about 90 miles north of us. We did not have a drug use problem at our little detachment.

This meth is nasty stuff. But locking up users and small time crooks won't make it go away. Preventing law abiding citizens from buying cold medicine just placates the public. But that is the nature of the business of the DEA.
 
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