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Although I have plenty, maybe too many, folding knife options, I find myself carrying a SAK more and more for the extra tools they offer. I was just somewhere this weekend and was offered a bottle of beer and instead of having to chase done a bottle opener, I just pulled out my knife. The big knives have their uses for sure PXL_20210728_231530652.jpg
 
I don't carry a SAK and never really have. I can open a beer just fine with my carry knife. My brother on the other hand loves his. I like the "jack of all trades" you get with it, but hate the "master of none part". Love having empty pockets.
 
I like a two layer SAK, as it is relatively flat and unobtrusive for small tasks. For <$30, it'll do everything the slipjoints I grew up with did and more, and I have always liked the option of a small blade for fine work, preserving the bigger blade for special occasions. Big folders are handy, but the SAK will do 80% of the work without complaint. Now, if they would just make a version of the Case Russlock (which must be off patent soon) with a phillips bit on the extended tang, wouldn't it be wonderful?

Edited to add that there does not seem to be a patent. There is a trademark, but of course the tang has been a feature of straight razors for centuries. OK Victorinox, what are we waiting for?
 
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This knife by Leatherman keeps a nice edge, and has a built in folding carabiner/ bottle opener.

The bottle opener holds the cap after removal rather than dropping it on the floor.

Found it used in the $2.50 box on a gun show knife table, and like other Leatherman products, seems to be well made.
 
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Why on earth would anyone ever want to carry one of those things? I'm always close to at least one SAK. If you wear or use glasses, reading glasses or sunglasses, eventually the mini screwdriver that stores in the corkscrew will be very handy indeed. The compact that is in the photo is my personal favorite SAK. But. Will never ever be without a classic. Those things are little gems.
 
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Swiss Army knives have gotten me out of hundreds of predicaments and saved me walking back to the truck MANY times (not to mention removing hundreds of splinters over the years). Use one for a while and you will understand their worth.
 
I love the little classic knife. I've had one on all my keys for forever. Use it all the time. SAK really needs to put better steel in their blades though. Give me 14c28n or 154cm main blade and I'll start carrying the '85 soldier again. I do rather hate the 1.4110 steel victorinox uses. Might as well put an edge on a butter knife.......
 
The knife on a keychain is commonly accepted, the offsetting negative I've experienced in the past was that the heavier the keychain the more quickly the lock cylinder in a vehicle wore out and caused issues. Learning my lesson (and having replaced at least 3 locks over the years) I minimized my keys down to the barest needed. One house key - the doors are keyed alike, it's in a keyway only available from locksmiths. All other household keys - garage, toolbox, padlocks, etc are in a secure location at home. The ignition/door keys for the two family vehicles are next, and locks on them - hitch, gas cap, trailer etc are in the vehicles where other family members who use them have the needed access. Not on me, while they are on empty at a station 20 miles away and using a crowbar to pry off the cap. Another lesson. These days it's still bulky with one chip key and a fob, but the fob car doesn't have it hanging off the dash, and it does have a door key. The chip key truck also has a door key hidden on it. I have spares, and if I lose my keychain, those are ALL I lose, not every lock I own. Stolen keys are like stolen Iphones - do you want someone who know's whats up to have access to all your stuff? Why, yes, I did sell security hardware at one time, and read the FM on Security, and worked as an MP in a confinement facility not inside the US. Keeping the keys separately located increases the time spent breaking in and that is a real deterrent.

Now, we were talking about carrying a SAK, I've owned quite a few and even have a Champ for sale in a flea market booth. My first criteria is that it doesn't have a cap lifter - don't need or want it. Now, a lot of others might prefer one, however, there is a large number of us who see it as useless, and in recent history the inclusion of a cap lifter in EDC tools has been a significant fad. For my use, I have more important tools that rank higher in priority. SAK's tend to have small almost delicate blades, which is a negative.They should be 3.5". The scissors are usually outstanding, and make the list. A clamshell opener hook is another when I was working retail. Awl for wood working in the field, yes. Can opener? Not since we moved to MRE's and that really dates me. Field rations have no cans now, it's less useful than a cap lifter. Wood saw blade is more important. A good flat screwdriver and the modified Phillips is handy. Tweezers, yes if they were pointed, not square. Toothpick can be ok, and one last item, a pocket clip. G10 scales, in blue, classic square crosshatch. MIltary, in coyote. Hole for lanyard and the main blade needs a lock.

That SAK doesn't exist as far as I have searched. So, I don't carry it. I live with my lowly status trying to make up for my inadequacies by having a good 3.5" bearing flipper with G10 scales and a clip, knowing I may have to delay or take the long walk to a tool box where I will find the full sized version that will do the job better and be inconvenienced doing it right the first time. Such is life. I have a truck tool box which comes inside frequently.

I have SAKS close to what I want, I might pack one in the shave kit where it lives in case I need to trim nose hairs or such. In it's place, in my EDC, I carry a small USB recharged LED flashlight, in blue, to see (and to see when it gets dropped) in the dark which is used more than a pocket knife. Funny how that works as you get older.

SAK needs to get a line of more modern, larger sized knives which meet more abusive conditions of use, and get their pricing aligned with those who need them. They have strayed far from their roots as a military field tool which supports a soldiers rough existence in the wild. Kinda like $120 Carharrt pants - few contractor employees can even afford them now. And that is another reason I don't carry a SAK - I don't need to dress up my keychain. It's already too big with a fob and less is more.
 
Swiss Army knives have gotten me out of hundreds of predicaments and saved me walking back to the truck MANY times (not to mention removing hundreds of splinters over the years). Use one for a while and you will understand their worth.
Wow you get in a lot of predicaments!
 
Jon Voight recently said in an interview that one day he was suffering from serious depression and muttered under his breath "Lord, it's so hard." And he heard a soft voice reply "That's because it's SUPPOSED to be hard." Amen brother.......
 
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Swisschamp, Excellent knife.
 

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