Rhineland Arms Masuer/Enfield Conversion

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Has anyone ever used one? I have seen a few posts about the Enfield conversion, but I was wondering if anyone had experience with the Mauser conversion? How hard is it to install? Will it go in any large ring?

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Don't know yet...

What I've heard is good... but I don't know first hand. Ordered a kit one month ago but have yet to receive it and they are making me nervous.

(1) Sent a cashier's check with a delivery verification. It was received in two days from when I sent it. I had called Rhineland about availability and they said they had them in stock.

(2) Two weeks latter... no kit! Called, they said "...we've just received your check..." and they'd have it shipped and on my door-step in one week. The comment about the check could have been a slip so I brushed it off.

(3) Two weeks latter... still not kit! Called again and the person (same as the one I spoke with before) said they were just finishing up those components and that it would be at my house by Tuesday (02.07.06)

(4) Wednesday (02.08.06) -- called again (very concerned) inquiring about my parts. The response was that they would have them to me by this Friday... I'm waiting to see.

I don't mind delays if the source is being up-front with me. Tell me it's going to be one or two months and I'll wait paitently. I don't like being lied to about anything... but especially when my money is invovled!

I will post here the next time I see/hear anything. Expect something posted postitive or negative this Sunday 02.12.06.
 
BFWE said:
What I've heard is good... but I don't know first hand. Ordered a kit one month ago but have yet to receive it and they are making me nervous.

(1) Sent a cashier's check with a delivery verification. It was received in two days from when I sent it. I had called Rhineland about availability and they said they had them in stock.

(2) Two weeks latter... no kit! Called, they said "...we've just received your check..." and they'd have it shipped and on my door-step in one week. The comment about the check could have been a slip so I brushed it off.

(3) Two weeks latter... still not kit! Called again and the person (same as the one I spoke with before) said they were just finishing up those components and that it would be at my house by Tuesday (02.07.06)

(4) Wednesday (02.08.06) -- called again (very concerned) inquiring about my parts. The response was that they would have them to me by this Friday... I'm waiting to see.

I don't mind delays if the source is being up-front with me. Tell me it's going to be one or two months and I'll wait paitently. I don't like being lied to about anything... but especially when my money is invovled!

I will post here the next time I see/hear anything. Expect something posted postitive or negative this Sunday 02.12.06.

I'm going all out... I am actually doing one of the Enfield .45 ACP conversions and one of the Mauser .45 WM conversions. The guy told me they would ship the kits this week, but as I don't have the guns yet and I paid by CC I'm not to worried. Only thing I am worried about is getting the old barrels off.

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Good news

Got home today and found the parts kit waiting on me. They look to be high-quality components. Needless to say I am pleased with what I recevied. There was even a note inside apologizing for the delay.

Now I'm waiting on the gun smith to finish removing the barrel from my receiver. I choose to let him do it as getting the barrels off Enfields can be a real problem... especially with US Property (Lend Lease) rifles. (Guess what kind I've got.) It seems the US marked rifles are "very" well built. Even to the point that the barrels are essentially "cold-welded" to the receiver.

I'll keep everyone posted on how the project goes.
 
BFWE said:
Got home today and found the parts kit waiting on me. They look to be high-quality components. Needless to say I am pleased with what I recevied. There was even a note inside apologizing for the delay.

Now I'm waiting on the gun smith to finish removing the barrel from my receiver. I choose to let him do it as getting the barrels off Enfields can be a real problem... especially with US Property (Lend Lease) rifles. (Guess what kind I've got.) It seems the US marked rifles are "very" well built. Even to the point that the barrels are essentially "cold-welded" to the receiver.

I'll keep everyone posted on how the project goes.

How do the barrels come off? I can't seem to find anything about removing them.

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I have their kit for a mauser. I set a red dot scope on it, shoots very well (minute of coke can) out to about 50 yards. One of these nights I'm going to see how it does on hogs at the deer feeder @ about 30 yards:D
 
Rottweiler said:
I have their kit for a mauser. I set a red dot scope on it, shoots very well (minute of coke can) out to about 50 yards. One of these nights I'm going to see how it does on hogs at the deer feeder @ about 30 yards:D

.45 ACP kit or .45 WM kit?

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Mine's the ACP version. uses 1911 mags. Only thing I don't like is you gotta work the bolt FAST or it jams. Mr. Mauser didn't design his '98 to feed short cartridges
 
Rottweiler said:
Mine's the ACP version. uses 1911 mags. Only thing I don't like is you gotta work the bolt FAST or it jams. Mr. Mauser didn't design his '98 to feed short cartridges

Jams? What part actually jams and how hard is it to unjam?

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round misses the chamber if you cycle the bolt slowly. clearing the jam is pretty simple, just pull back on the bolt and flip the rifle upsidedown. The round falls free. I'm thinkin a little work on the extractor will probably fix it but I know that cycling the bolt quickly works also and I tend to follow Occam's razor when it comes to fixing things
 
Rottweiler said:
round misses the chamber if you cycle the bolt slowly. clearing the jam is pretty simple, just pull back on the bolt and flip the rifle upsidedown. The round falls free. I'm thinkin a little work on the extractor will probably fix it but I know that cycling the bolt quickly works also and I tend to follow Occam's razor when it comes to fixing things

That doesn't sound too bad. You do the build yourself? If so how hard was it?

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I did the build myself. Wasn't very hard. I've done a few before that one that all cycle and shoot very well, but they were all long rifle rounds. Rhinelander's directions are very good. The only tools that are job specific are the action wrench and barrel vise. The chamber comes already reamed and the headspace is "adjusted" by screwing the barrel in or out beforeyou lock it doown with the jam nut. I have about 1000 rounds through mine and the barrel nut has yet to move off the witness mark I put on it.
 
Rottweiler said:
I did the build myself. Wasn't very hard. I've done a few before that one that all cycle and shoot very well, but they were all long rifle rounds. Rhinelander's directions are very good. The only tools that are job specific are the action wrench and barrel vise. The chamber comes already reamed and the headspace is "adjusted" by screwing the barrel in or out beforeyou lock it doown with the jam nut. I have about 1000 rounds through mine and the barrel nut has yet to move off the witness mark I put on it.

Awsome. What other calibers have you done?
 
I`ve been waiting for the .45WM Mauser kits to be ready to ship. Rhineland said they can do one to accept LAR Grizzly mags so it`ll make a neat companion piece to my Griz. My smith liked the idea so much he`s gonna build one for himself with the M1 mags. I`m told the .45ACP version is feed and extraction sensitive but that the .45WM is better due to it`s longer OAL. Time will tell! Marcus
 
All the rifle rounds are about the same. Not much. just a little stoning of the feed rails and attention to detail when reaming a chamber to depth
 
Cool. Just an update. I got both of my kits today and will be picking up the rifles this weekend. I'll post pictures of the whole setup later.

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A friend of mine has a Rhineland .45 Mauser and it works quite well.
I don't have a Rhineland conversion, but I do have an 1888 Mauser that I fitted with a Thompson MG barrel(16 1/4" from Numrich) about 15 years ago.It is a single shot, but I have almost finished the mods to use a 1911 .45 mag. Lots of work and fabrication. Normally, I use standard loads for small game, from turtles up to coyotes. Recently I came up with a load I am going to try on pigs. I won't post it, but you can PM me if you want it. It pushes a Speer 230 gr lead nose JHP(#4479) at 1275 fps. Very accurate out of my gun and shows no pressure signs. Should work fine in the R'land conversions.

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Getting Back to the Project

I found a good way to take the barrels off of Enfields. You destroy the barrel but it works like a charm. This is necessary due to the way the barrels were put on when the rifle was made. Enfields -- especially US made -- are "notorious" for having barrels that are almost impossible to remove.
  1. Chuck the barreled action into a lathe - can strip the guts of the bolt if you have a bolt-tool and then use a live-center to keep the whole thing straight.
  2. Use a cut-off tool to remove the metal from the BARREL at the junction where it presses against the receiver shoulder. REMOVE METAL FROM THE BARREL ONLY and leave the receiver intact (VERY IMPROTANT!)
  3. Turn the cut down till pressure is relieved on the barrel-shoulder.
  4. The barrel will easily screw off... throw the barrel away as there is now nothing to headspace on... it is useless.
Any good gun shop can handle this work... just don't let them try to do it without the relief cutting lathe work. You'll most likely just get a bent barrel and then have an extra step in removing it competently.
 
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