blakeci
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It was a figure of speech, he wasn't literally saying that liberals restricted teenage speed limits. Sheesh, let's open our minds. What has the education system done to our people's ability to understand hyperbole.
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"Retreat, hell!" snapped Major General Oliver Prince Smith, commander of the 1st Marine Division, with which he had fought on Guadalcanal, New Britain, Peleliu, Okinawa (TIME, Sept. 25). "We're not retreating, we're just advancing in a different direction."*
"Liberals" has come to represent some kind of gun-stealing boogeyman around here. I dislike reading the word used in that context, so I make it a point to address any such comments.
My ability to identify and understand hyperble is a hundred billion times better than anyone else who was ever born.
My ability to identify and understand hyperble is a hundred billion times better than anyone else who was ever born.
because you are one?
Liberal is what "they" are identified as. Thats that. Like it or not, everyone else in america knows what demographic you are referring to when you say "liberal"
I suppose you just cant stand the mis-use of the word literally, too? or ignorant?
Liberal is what "they" are identified as. Thats that. Like it or not, everyone else in america knows what demographic you are referring to when you say "liberal"
I suppose you just cant stand the mis-use of the word literally, too? or ignorant?
I definitely am liberal, according to the dictionary definition:
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2.(often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3.of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
4.favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmentalprotection of civil liberties.
5.favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.
6.of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2.(often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3.of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
4.favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmentalprotection of civil liberties.
5.favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.
6.of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
Ragnar Danneskjold
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HOV, you know what liberal means in today political speech. You're being deliberately contrarian. For what?
Unless you're a Mexican drug cartel member. Then the 5.56 will tear up apart.
HOV, you know what liberal means in today political speech. You're being deliberately contrarian. For what?
Unless you're a Mexican drug cartel member. Then the 5.56 will tear up apart.
Ragnar, I'm honestly not sure what it means these days in mainstream culture, except as a kind of vague reference to someone who favors socialism or big government (correctly to be called "socialists" and "big government lovers" respectively). It's used as a kind of put-down.
I think liberalism as defined in the dictionary is a noble concept - something our forefathers worked for, something that is hand in hand with preserving our individual rights, and so I respond when the word is used inappropriately.
I think liberalism as defined in the dictionary is a noble concept - something our forefathers worked for, something that is hand in hand with preserving our individual rights, and so I respond when the word is used inappropriately.
Ragnar Danneskjold
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HOV, I am making a truly wild guess here, but would I be correct if I guess that you are in favor of maybe some of the social issues usually supported by the "left"?
I don't know what issues you're talking about, nor are they relevant to this discussion.
A member made the comment that tighter governmental controls, whether they make sense or not, is the "liberal" response to a given problem. I differed and presented the defintion of "liberal" to support my argument, and establish a common understanding of what the word means, as per the dictionary.
A member made the comment that tighter governmental controls, whether they make sense or not, is the "liberal" response to a given problem. I differed and presented the defintion of "liberal" to support my argument, and establish a common understanding of what the word means, as per the dictionary.
That's called "classical liberal" and it has been for some time, in the US at any rate.
Words morph in their meanings. A meaning used in older literature, or in other countries that share English as a language, remains in the dictionary primarily for the benefit of those trying to understand literature from various places and times.
I feel so gay as I stroke a furry warm pussy on the davenport. Look it up.
The current meaning of "liberal" in American politics predates the changes in American English exposed by that sentence.
jimmyraythomason
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This has veered WAY OT.
berettaprofessor
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Too late. X-Rap invoked Godwin's Law.
How about classic modern American quotes on guns?
"I believe it's the shoulder thing that goes up"
U.S. Congress Representative Carolyn McCarthy
and
"Some of these bullets have an incendiary device on the the tip of them, which is a heat seeking device"
New York State Assemblywoman Patricia Eddington
Oh, and how could I forget
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun"
"I never meant for simple civilians to have my 20 or 30 round magazines or my folding stock"
All-american gun maker William B. Ruger, Sr.
"I believe it's the shoulder thing that goes up"
U.S. Congress Representative Carolyn McCarthy
and
"Some of these bullets have an incendiary device on the the tip of them, which is a heat seeking device"
New York State Assemblywoman Patricia Eddington
Oh, and how could I forget
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun"
"I never meant for simple civilians to have my 20 or 30 round magazines or my folding stock"
All-american gun maker William B. Ruger, Sr.
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"When the German Kaiser asked in 1912 what the quarter of
a million Swiss militiamen would do if invaded by a half
million German soldiers, a Swiss replied: "Shoot twice
and go home."
a million Swiss militiamen would do if invaded by a half
million German soldiers, a Swiss replied: "Shoot twice
and go home."
Cosmoline
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FYI, here is the whole text of the Jefferson letter to Peter Carr:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/let31.asp
The advice is sound even today. Replace his comments on the horse with the automobile.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/let31.asp
The advice is sound even today. Replace his comments on the horse with the automobile.
It's funny that in Australia the Liberal party or being Liberal, is the equivalent of the Republican party in the US.
The left is the Labor Party..
In the rest of the world, the label "neoliberalism" is referred to right ideologies.
However I define myself more as a libertarian.
Individual freedom, defence of civil rights, personal responsability, separation between church and state (something the Republicans forgot when they teamed up with the Christian nuts), right to self defence, right of choice for women, drug legalization (the war on drugs has been a disaster empowering even more the drug cartels), sound money and no military adventurism which is bankrupting us.
In case nobody noticed, we do not have 2 political parties nowdays in America...we have 2 bought for factions completely corrupted and sold to big corporate interests.
Bush and Obama are two faces of the same coin...do you think McScary would have been different??
The left is the Labor Party..
In the rest of the world, the label "neoliberalism" is referred to right ideologies.
However I define myself more as a libertarian.
Individual freedom, defence of civil rights, personal responsability, separation between church and state (something the Republicans forgot when they teamed up with the Christian nuts), right to self defence, right of choice for women, drug legalization (the war on drugs has been a disaster empowering even more the drug cartels), sound money and no military adventurism which is bankrupting us.
In case nobody noticed, we do not have 2 political parties nowdays in America...we have 2 bought for factions completely corrupted and sold to big corporate interests.
Bush and Obama are two faces of the same coin...do you think McScary would have been different??
jimmyraythomason
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That definitely isn't called for as many of us THR members are Christian.
jimmyraythomason
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saturno V, you and I parted ways after your 3rd example.
Jimmy
Everybody is different.
But freedom is not a concept we should embrace only for the things convenient to us...freedom is not open to interpretation or exception...
A Police state (read Patriot Act and other stuff) where I still can carry guns is still not a free state.
Everybody is different.
But freedom is not a concept we should embrace only for the things convenient to us...freedom is not open to interpretation or exception...
A Police state (read Patriot Act and other stuff) where I still can carry guns is still not a free state.
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