Agreed, Im actually really happy with the Forge.
It would probably be a good scope for a target .22 also actually. Ive been really impressed with mine.
Rimfire scope recommendations
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It would probably be a good scope for a target .22 also actually. Ive been really impressed with mine.
Yeah its limited, and for real distance dialing its probably not a great choice. I dont really shoot my .22 outside of 150-200yds very often tho (legally no place I can except on private property), and when I do Im mostly using the reticle for hold over, and just lobbing rounds at stuff.
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Wow .......... a completely different perspective . Experience and insight illustrates how little thought I've really given this . Thanks for taking the time to run it down like you have .
redneck2
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As noted above, you can only shoot as well as you can see. I have a CZ 453 Varminter with a 4-14x40 VX-3. I actually wouldn’t mind having more power at 100 yards or more. With Wolf Match Extra it will shoot one hole at 50 yards.
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Here's where I come down on rimfire scopes. Most of mine (over 50) are hunting, plinking or "tactical" rifles. I want hunting scopes on hunting rifles and target scopes on target rifles. If a rifle is to do both, I'd rather take a hunting scope to the range than a target scope to the field. I can shoot tiny groups all day long with a 2-7x or 3-9x but a 6-24x sucks on a walkabout small game rifle. So I typically use a fixed 24x for testing purposes and a smaller variable or fixed 4x in the field. If I were buying a scope specifically for the CZ, it would be a Leupold rimfire 2-7x or 3-9x. Since I got a good deal on a used Burris 4.5-14x, I put it on my Savage MKII and the Burris 3-9x on my CZ 457 American.
That said, these are dedicated rimfire scopes, either set parallax free at 50yds or in the case of the 4.5-14x, parallax adjustable with side focus. A big centerfire variable on a rimfire is a headache waiting to happen. I've seen severe parallax issues with them on rimfire rifles.
That said, these are dedicated rimfire scopes, either set parallax free at 50yds or in the case of the 4.5-14x, parallax adjustable with side focus. A big centerfire variable on a rimfire is a headache waiting to happen. I've seen severe parallax issues with them on rimfire rifles.
Here's another vote for Tract scopes. I've owned many different brands at varying levels of expense. The Tract 22Fire scopes would be perfect for your needs and will cost you very little. I'm convinced it is not only the best value on the market, but simply one of the best scopes on the market.
I just wish they had put an adjustable focus on the .22 versions.
I got bullied into trying a set of PFI scopes, but I think the next ones id like to try are the Toric 1" hunters. I don't like FFP, so those might be perfect for me.
My guess is that adjustable focus would have amped up the cost and the wanted to keep cost down. My 22Fire 4-12X is on my Bergara BXR semi-auto. I've used it squirrel hunting and adjusting it up and down the power spectrum has been adjustment enough so far. And a little bragging is OK here. Killed 4 squirrels on two hunts, never missed and all head shots. Love that rifle and scope. Also bought a Tract Response 4-16X BDC and put it on my Savage 110 Desert Tactical 6.5 CM. I've not tried it out at 300-400 yds, but like the scope so far. I, too, want to try the Toric 1" Hunter with the T-Plex reticle, but it is out of stock. Hope the shipping problems get ironed out in the next few months if the vaccine helps us get back to normal.
Im sure the added complexity would have cost more, and probably isn't really the market they were going for with what they offer. It would be nice if they DID add a 4-12 or 4.5-14 with SF or AO, even if it ended up costing 300ish id buy it. I bought an Athlon Argos HMR for my .22, but the power range is lower than id really like, and that cost me 300ish....I probably should have just sucked up the extra weight and got the 4-20x50, but oh well....maybe ill pull the dot reticle one i have on my 300.
Im broke after the PFI debacle, so ill be having to save up for scopes again....among other stuff.......
Im broke after the PFI debacle, so ill be having to save up for scopes again....among other stuff.......
With all the blasted shipping delays, maybe we'll all have time to save a bit of money. Unfortunately, I was not able to take advantage of their 10% off all scopes Christmas sale. Oh well.....and my wife has this notion of spending money on new dining room furniture.
I love it when wives have that notions...my friends wives I mean.....
I usually end up with new/old furniture...........thankfully mine thinks that's not weird......
Hey Loonwulf.....Maybe I should follow your lead. My used set is going to a good home. My nephew is getting married and is getting my old set (barely used) for a wedding present. So, it's all good. Still eager to get the new scopes though.
I've gradually changed over to scopes with adjustable objectives on every rifle I target shoot with. Over a dozen are 22LR. Grandson's 10/22 Compact has a Simmons 3-9x32 22Mag AO, which is discontinued. Cheap, but good enough and he's a bit hard on stuff. Nikon is gone, still have a pair of their 3-9x40 Rimfire EFRs, again discontinued. Next are Leupolds: a VX-2 3-9x33 EFR CDS (discontinued), a VX-Freedom 3-9x33 (current), a VX-2 4-12 EFR (discontinued), a VX-2 6-18 EFR (discontinued), and a VX-3i 6.5-20 EFR CDS (discontinued but widely available). These are my best scopes, and the discontinued ones were all purchased at closeout prices. Several more wear Mueller APV 4.5-14x40 AO scopes, an incredible value. Their APV 6-18x44 AO is another winner, I have one of those, too. https://muelleroptics.com/product-category/apv-scopes/ Buy direct, they sometimes throw in sunshades and always honor their lifetime warranty if you buy direct. Their eyebox is a little tight, but they have very good glass for the money. Mine have been trouble-free.
If you are hunting, walking and shooting offhand, I recommend a 2-7 or 3-9. If you are shooting paper from a table, bench, or prone, more magnification is better.
If you are hunting, walking and shooting offhand, I recommend a 2-7 or 3-9. If you are shooting paper from a table, bench, or prone, more magnification is better.
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Like you the one thing that gives me pause is there’s no AO or side focus on Tract Rimfire scopes. In my case it’s kind of dumb because I’ve never adjusted the AO on my Clearidge in the time I’ve owned it. But this little devil in my head tells me I must have AO or side focus on a rimfire scope. I really like Tract scopes.
With my goofy eye sight I seem to have a much smaller range at which "focused" Is. Like @Teachu2, Nearly all of mine are focusable now, even the ones on my "set it and forget it" rigs. I think im down to a GPO, and Simmons WTE as my only single focus scopes, and both of those are on guns I don't use.
Heh, my muzzle loader is going to likely get a ffe1 4.5-14 mostly to get the sf. Tho that might got on my 795, and i may move the Bushnell uhd 3-9x40 (one of the few 3-9 scopes I've seen with SF) to the muzzy.
Like me, are you finding some adjustable are better than others? The yardage markings rarely fit with the actually yardage focus. The one notable exception is my Bushnell Elite 4500 4-16X with side focus. I recognize that they are not expected to be precise, but should be at least close. The worst one I have, sadly, is one of my more expensive scopes, a Leupold VX III 4.5-14X AO. But, it still adjusts; like most of you I just ignore to markings.
Im pretty sure eye sight has something to do with it. Ive NEVER had range markers be correct for an actual focused image. I always have to run them long, some scopes by not a lot, some by a considerable amount. At this point I LOOK at AO scopes when I settle in so i know kinda where it is in rotation, but otherwise don't check. With SF i dont even check. Both I adjust while on the scope.
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https://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes/timberline-riflescopes-series/timberline-riflescope-4.5-14x32mm
Parallax down to 7 yards
Parallax down to 7 yards
Looks like a really good option. I've had several Burris scopes and they all worked fine.
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Mines been on my Savage 22 but I moved it over to my CZ 17HMR
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A good Leopold 3-9 Rimfire would work very, very well. I intend to pick one up for my 452 soon.
I have one of those on my 7mm BAR, great little scope. It was MENT for my 527 but the eye relief is so bloody long that I couldn't get if far enough forward without going to a rail and extension rings....which would have defeated the purpose.
Thus it went on the BAR, where i could put it way forward.
The scope its self is really nice.
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