I recently bought 500 (actually 569) 40 cal. "pulled" JHP from RMR. They're listed as mix weights. And that they are.
They throw in extra bullets.
The count goes as;
198 180 gr.
181 165 gr.
156 155 gr.
34 135 gr.
The bullets have slight pull collet markings, but no deformations. No detectable dents or scuffs.
Since Federal doesn't, as far as I can tell, offer these bullets to reloaders, I tried to compare the lengths to other bullet data.
Some info for bullet lengths were listed at JBM's Bullet Length List, mostly Sierra brand.
HST Sierra Hornady
180 gr. .640" .628" .621"
165 gr. .600" .593" xxxx
155 gr. .570" xxxx xxxx
150 gr. xxxx .540" xxxx
135 gr. .515" .447" xxxx
I have had decent results with CFE-P in 9mm, so that was my primary powder for load development. But both Hodgdon and Hornady's Longshot load data for the 180 gr. XTP (both claim approx. 1150 fps at max) got my interest.
40 S&W 180 gr. HST 4" barrel
Longshot @ 7.0 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 Mixed Nickel Cases
4 shot string
High 1042 fps
Low 1031 fps
Avg. 1038 fps
ES 11
SD 4
40 S&W 180 gr. HST 4" barrel
Longshot @ 7.5 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 mixed nickel cases
Hodgdon and Hornady use the XTP in their data. Hodgdon list 8.0 gr. max, and Hornady list 7.5 gr. as max.
5 shot string
High 1100 fps
Low 1024 fps
Avg. 1057 fps
ES 76
SD 27
(I will have to revisit this load from scratch, as I screwed something up with it.)
40 S&W 165 gr. HST 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 6.4 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 mixed nickel cases
5 shot string
High 1050 fps
Low 1041 fps
Avg. 1044 fps
ES 9
SD 3
40 S&W 165 gr. HST. 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 6.8 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 mixed nickel cases
5 shot string
High 1122
Low 1070
Avg. 1094
ES 52
SD 19
40 S&W 155 gr. HST 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 6.9 gr. 1.130" Oal
CCI 500 PMC cases
5 shot string
High 1129 fps
Low 1092 fps
Avg. 1113 fps
ES 37
SD 14
40 S&W 155 gr. HST 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 7.2 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 PMC cases
5 shot string
High 1175 fps
Low 1154 fps
Avg. 1165 fps
ES 21
SD 7
40 S&W 135 gr. HST 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 8.2 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 PMC cases
5 shot string
High 1283 fps
Low 1250 fps
Avg. 1272 fps
ES 33
SD 13
40 S&W. 135 gr. HST 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 8.5 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 PMC cases
High 1334 fps
Low 1297 fps
Avg. 1311 fps
ES 37
SD 14
If someone can glean some useful info out of this, great. It was still fun and I plan on doing a more thorough test at another time.
They throw in extra bullets.
The count goes as;
198 180 gr.
181 165 gr.
156 155 gr.
34 135 gr.
The bullets have slight pull collet markings, but no deformations. No detectable dents or scuffs.
Since Federal doesn't, as far as I can tell, offer these bullets to reloaders, I tried to compare the lengths to other bullet data.
Some info for bullet lengths were listed at JBM's Bullet Length List, mostly Sierra brand.
HST Sierra Hornady
180 gr. .640" .628" .621"
165 gr. .600" .593" xxxx
155 gr. .570" xxxx xxxx
150 gr. xxxx .540" xxxx
135 gr. .515" .447" xxxx
I have had decent results with CFE-P in 9mm, so that was my primary powder for load development. But both Hodgdon and Hornady's Longshot load data for the 180 gr. XTP (both claim approx. 1150 fps at max) got my interest.
40 S&W 180 gr. HST 4" barrel
Longshot @ 7.0 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 Mixed Nickel Cases
4 shot string
High 1042 fps
Low 1031 fps
Avg. 1038 fps
ES 11
SD 4
40 S&W 180 gr. HST 4" barrel
Longshot @ 7.5 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 mixed nickel cases
Hodgdon and Hornady use the XTP in their data. Hodgdon list 8.0 gr. max, and Hornady list 7.5 gr. as max.
5 shot string
High 1100 fps
Low 1024 fps
Avg. 1057 fps
ES 76
SD 27
(I will have to revisit this load from scratch, as I screwed something up with it.)
40 S&W 165 gr. HST 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 6.4 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 mixed nickel cases
5 shot string
High 1050 fps
Low 1041 fps
Avg. 1044 fps
ES 9
SD 3
40 S&W 165 gr. HST. 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 6.8 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 mixed nickel cases
5 shot string
High 1122
Low 1070
Avg. 1094
ES 52
SD 19
40 S&W 155 gr. HST 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 6.9 gr. 1.130" Oal
CCI 500 PMC cases
5 shot string
High 1129 fps
Low 1092 fps
Avg. 1113 fps
ES 37
SD 14
40 S&W 155 gr. HST 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 7.2 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 PMC cases
5 shot string
High 1175 fps
Low 1154 fps
Avg. 1165 fps
ES 21
SD 7
40 S&W 135 gr. HST 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 8.2 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 PMC cases
5 shot string
High 1283 fps
Low 1250 fps
Avg. 1272 fps
ES 33
SD 13
40 S&W. 135 gr. HST 4" barrel
CFE-P @ 8.5 gr. 1.130" OAL
CCI 500 PMC cases
High 1334 fps
Low 1297 fps
Avg. 1311 fps
ES 37
SD 14
If someone can glean some useful info out of this, great. It was still fun and I plan on doing a more thorough test at another time.
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