Not for 550.00 which is what my LGS had them for today, "For the officers, or compact model", for 400.00 they are a good value. Then you can put a couple hundred into it and have a nice gun. I would just but a R1 for &650.00, $700.00 for stainless todays price in my town. Those shoot well with just a mag change. Once you cross the $600.oo line you may as well go for a better gun. Off topic that 239 that sig makes was calling my name all the way home. You should be able to pick up a Colt for $850 used.