Ruger 57-First Impressions

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So, it's not any secret that I'm not a huge Ruger fan. Most of what they put out is somewhere between ho-hum status quo and a blatant rip-off of other designs. I had sold off most of what I did have, retaining only an M77 varmint .220 Swift, an SP-101 .32 mag and a SRH 454, the latter of which I'd happily trade for an equivalent S&W if it existed. Alas, it doesn't.

Anyway, this latest offering was something that actually interested me. 5.7x28mm handguns are intriguing, but with a choice between the ugly, uncomfortable and very expensive FN Five-seveN or the Excel thing that's the size of a Desert Eagle and only holds 9 rounds, a good host seemed to elude the round for myself and many others. In stark contrast to the last few years of just pumping out more over-hyped variants of cheap-ish polymer pistols and the 10/22, the new 57 is what the FN pistol really should have been. It doesn't feel like a cheap BB gun, has pretty svelte contours & good ergonomics, excellent sights and trigger pulls that's not bad, albeit rather mushy & undefined.

Of course, the price is going to be what helps this pistol move. Although we see it listed many places in the $600-$650 range, those are perpetually out of stock, so if you want one this year but don't have the time to hover on those sights hitting the refresh button and pouncing the moment one comes in, or a good buddy at the LGS with allocation preferences who'll hide one away for you, expect to pay more in the $700-$800 range. A little steep, but a lot better than the $1,200 price point of the (IMO less desirable) FN. As with any new-to-market weapon, it's a matter of "how soon do you want it?"

I only popped off a few rounds out back for now, as my 5.7 ammo supply was pretty light considering that I didn't own anything so-chambered until today. Recoil is very mild, bullets go where I aimed, gun ran without a hiccup. Not much more I can say about it at this time.

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It's a fairly large handgun, but light weight. Not comically large like the Desert Eagle, but good sized. The LxWxH measurements are actually pretty close to a 1911, but it is more "filled in" in terms of the silhouette. Grip is fairly thin, but long front to back, so shooters with small hands or short fingers may find it a bit much. I wear XL gloves, so no reach issue for me, but then, I find a Desert Eagle with Hogue grips pretty comfortable and don't consider a 92FS bulky at all.

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Is this gun worth the money? It is, after all, another polymer pistol selling North of $500. If you had an interest in shooting the 5.7x28mm round from a handgun, though, I'd have to say yes by default, given the extremely limited options you have.

Of course, my justification for buying it has more to do with R&D than personal interest, given my business. I'll be threading the barrel and coming up with a suppressor design that performs well yet doesn't cause issues with the semi-delayed blowback system that depends entirely on case-to-chamber wall friction (just like the PMR-30). That will prove a challenge, but it's what I do!
 
I want to get one, I'll wait for msrp or less.

MSRP is $799; you can find them for that or less than that right now. This one was $750 at a shop in the Springs. I decided I'd rather get to working on the can now than wait months to save $100 or so.


I’m looking around for a pre owned one next year. Should be able to get one for $500 I think.

Perhaps, but I wouldn't count on it. This is not the kind of gun people buy without really knowing what they want, nor is it expensive enough for people who actually wanted it to unload in order to free up some cash. I think the extreme majority of buyers are people who wanted a Five-seveN that wasn't a Five-seveN and didn't have a 4-figure price tag, and now they have it. They get snatched up very quickly, and the lists of people wanting to buy at brick & mortars are pretty long. It's gonna be a hot minute before these start turning up on used shelves.
 
Perhaps, but I wouldn't count on it. This is not the kind of gun people buy without really knowing what they want, nor is it expensive enough for people who actually wanted it to unload in order to free up some cash. I think the extreme majority of buyers are people who wanted a Five-seveN that wasn't a Five-seveN and didn't have a 4-figure price tag, and now they have it. They get snatched up very quickly, and the lists of people wanting to buy at brick & mortars are pretty long. It's gonna be a hot minute before these start turning up on used shelves.

That should have read as, I don’t want one that bad. I will buy one at a bottom feeder price though. I should also note, I don’t just buy things if they are at a bottom feeder price. The 57 is interesting to me, but only at the right price. This is a technique that has worked often if I wait long enough.

One has already come up for sale pre owned around my parts. I say “sale” the owner wanted to trade only. His trade value was a PSA AR that was pretty close in value to $500. I guess he got bored with it. It didn’t last long though, so that is something.

Just checked around and there is another available in north GA. Unfired and for trade only again. Looks like this fella is trying to profiteer off the scarcity of it.
 
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I did get lucky in finding a FiveSeven used locally that was substantially cheaper than new, even though the pistol was in very good shape.

I wear a medium sized glove but the long and skinny shape dictated by the length of the round works for me. I can’t speak to the Ruger 57 but for me the FiveSeven is a big but light, low recoiling, pistol that’s easy to shoot fast.

I avoid the 40gr ballistic tip ammo as that seems counter to the entire point of the pistol, launching aluminum core 28gr bullets at ~2000fps.

BSW
 
That should have read as, I don’t want one that bad. I will buy one at a bottom feeder price though. I should also note, I don’t just buy things if they are at a bottom feeder price. The 57 is interesting to me, but only at the right price. This is a technique that has worked often if I wait long enough.

I agree, and that's generally my approach. It took years before I found my Marlin .25-20 at a price I was willing to pay.

But for this, the sooner I can design a suppressor for it, the further ahead I'll be in that market, and the higher price I paid won't even be a footnote in my memory.

For example, the barrel thread jobs I got after posting the following photo already more than paid for that pristine 3906:

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Someone who owns a PMR 30 is calling a FN 57 ugly????

My boss has a FN 57 and I found it very comfortable in my very long hands, quite accurate and fun to shoot! I really love how light the FN is!

The FN 57 is too expensive for my tastes though and expensive ammo too. If it were easier to reload for I might consider buying one of the 5.7's but they really don't fill any role that I personally need filled. I think I would opt for an ugly PMR 30 due to its comparable light weight, much less expensive rounds and much lower initial price. Since I would only really use any of these guns as plinkers.the different in power between the 5.7 and .22 mag wouldn't really make any difference to me... I doubt the tin cans I would be shooting would know the difference in energy either.
 
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I agree, and that's generally my approach. It took years before I found my Marlin .25-20 at a price I was willing to pay.

But for this, the sooner I can design a suppressor for it, the further ahead I'll be in that market, and the higher price I paid won't even be a footnote in my memory.

For example, the barrel thread jobs I got after posting the following photo already more than paid for that pristine 3906:

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That is STUNNING! I would take the barrel and put it by itself in a lexan case on my desk to see if people could guess what it is. Plus I just enjoy looking at finely crafted metal objects, regardless of their function.
 
Someone who owns a PMR 30 is calling a FN 57 ugly????

Ha!

True, no Kel Tec is going to win a beauty contest. It's the bulbous, rounded off, plastic-on-plastic cheap Walmart shelf BB gun look of the Five-seveN I find off-putting, and function-over-fashion has a price ceiling for me, which is well below the FN's cost. 30 rounds of .22 WMR in a 15 ounce pistol for under $400 falls within the style blind range, though!

To be fair, no way I'd have paid over a grand for the Ruger 57, either. It's better looking & feeling than the FN, but still nothing about it that would warrant a 4 figure sticker. If it were marketed at the same $1,400 MSRP and ~$1,200 street price as the Five-seveN, it would have been another "that's nice" with an eye roll.


Plans to load your own ammo?

Nah. Don't have the free time. If I save $20 or $30 for an hour at the loading bench, I'm actually losing money.
 
First, thanks for jumping in. I am waiting to see if they come out with a compact version. I would also like to see them come out with a bolt action rifle in 57. At that point I know I would jump.
 
I would also like to see them come out with a bolt action rifle in 57.
Savage Model 25 Walking Warminter in 5.7 wasn't a success and is discontinued. Although Ruger 57 was not a thing back then, it shows that appeal of 5.7 in a bolt gun is as selective as that of 22 Hornet.
 
Savage Model 25 Walking Warminter in 5.7 wasn't a success and is discontinued. Although Ruger 57 was not a thing back then, it shows that appeal of 5.7 in a bolt gun is as selective as that of 22 Hornet.

I didn't even know about that one. I checked GunBroker and there were none there at all. But I can keep looking.
 
Idk. Ive never seen an FN sell for the prices I see spoken of on here except during panic buys. Maybe an area specific thing though. Gun.Deals has them pretty regularly for under a grand. Usually with a free holster or light. I gave a grand each for two back before the fort hood shooting even happened. For 5-600 I might look at the ruger. But for 8? I don't see it.
 
I've been wondering if anyone had received one yet other than the YouTubers. I want one when finally they pop locally. I already bought some ammo just so I had some for when that day comes, just a small stash of 450 rds right now. Prices went up on it so I have not bought anymore for a gun I don't even on yet. I wonder if Ruger is making a bunch of them or scaled back to make and sell more wanted caliber firearms for the time being.
 
Savage Model 25 Walking Warminter in 5.7 wasn't a success and is discontinued. Although Ruger 57 was not a thing back then, it shows that appeal of 5.7 in a bolt gun is as selective as that of 22 Hornet.

It follows, being that they're pretty much ballistic twins with the same appeals and limitations in terms of manual action rifles.

I gave a grand each for two back before the fort hood shooting even happened. For 5-600 I might look at the ruger. But for 8? I don't see it.

Have you physically exqamined (or actually fired) the Ruger? Again, not a Ruger fan boy by any stretch, but given the choice between the 57 and the Five-seveN, I'd choose the 57 hands down even if it were the more expensive option.

As far as real world pricing, the Five-seveN holds pretty steady at about $1,200.

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I recall times when prices hovered nearer a grand, but it's been awhile, and that was still far more than I was willing to pay.

Today's FN products are very much like a lot of other European guns, where there's a very unresolved matter of "does it cost more because it's better, or is it (largely) perceived as better because it costs more?" From my perspective, which is a pretty qualified one, it's overwhelmingly the latter.
 
Have you physically exqamined (or actually fired) the Ruger? Again, not a Ruger fan boy by any stretch, but given the choice between the 57 and the Five-seveN, I'd choose the 57 hands down even if it were the more expensive option.

As far as real world pricing, the Five-seveN holds pretty steady at about $1,200.

No I haven't. And I'm a Ruger fan. I have several Redhawks, Blackhawks, GP, mk series, and single sixes. Even a few old p-series guns that, unlike most people, I like. I wouldn't say I'm an FN fan either, I own exactly two and both are 5.7s. I have a few HK and Sig (although most of mine are made in Exeter on German frames) but I'm not crazy about any of the foreign guns. I'll eventually get a Ruger 5.7 too perhaps but I'm no fan of their semi autos. But every single time I bought a gun/ car/ electronics or anything else for above list price early in its life cycle I ended up paying extra just to be a tester for the company and having issues so I just stopped doing that years ago. I'm not hating on the gun, just the current pricing.

A friend of mine was looking back in December (screenshot was dec. 19) talking about buying the Ruger at the high prices quoted around 850 because the FN was too high. Asking me if I wish I waited. I sent him links for weeks. I do not know which gun, if either, he bought but here is one i sent that was still on my phone. Again that's from dec. 19 so only few months back people were passing on them for under a grand and they stayed in that range for a long time. I also sent him one with a venom RDS for 1100. Now that they have competition I can't imagine they stay above that for long. I've been wrong once before, a bunch of times.

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Thanks for the Thread, MachIVshooter!

My interest in the 5,7x28 began with my lusting over the PS90.

Once I determined that reloading would require way more effort than I was prepared to expend, I had to abandon my PS90 Jones.

If that had worked out differently, I would probably be looking at this new Ruger-57 with great interest.

... I can, however, still enjoy dreaming about Possibilities that might exist in an Affordably-Priced-5,7x28-Ammunition-World, though. ;)
 
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