Ruger Blackhawk. 45acp

[TTv2]

I was similarly asking a question because there's only two revolvers that can shoot Auto Rim and they're milsurp 1917's and top break Webleys that have had the cylinders shaved.

When you have a revolver that's chambered for .45 ACP and can headspace of the case mouth, I don't see the point in bothering with Auto Rim. Even if you had a 1917 or shaved Webley, you may as well keep your Auto Rim ammo for those guns only and use ACP in the other .45 wheelguns you own.

 

[BigBlue 94]

Hence the reason i worded my original question to mention that it would be ridiculous to do so since auto rim is so much harder to come by.

 

[nofendertom]

My S&W Model 25 shoots auto rim---I shot auto rim for a few years until I started shooting IPSC,plates and pins---went to 45acp for faster reloads.

 

[BobWright]

I was similarly asking a question because there's only two revolvers that can shoot Auto Rim and they're milsurp 1917's and top break Webleys that have had the cylinders shaved.............................

Smith & Wesson made a series of .45 ACP revolvers as a matter of fact. These were the Model 1950 Army and the Model 1950 & Model 1955 Target. The Model 1950 was a modernized M1917, and the Model 1950 and Model 1955 Target were N-Framed models with target sights. Not sure what the Model number is with the new Modelnumbering system. May be Model 25 but not too sure.

Bob Wright

 

[Dave T]

Yes, it was the M25. I have a M25-2 that shoots AR (not that I do) and I used to have a 625 that would shoot ARs as well. I've owned 325s that can handle ARs. Smith makes a current production M22-4 that is a 45 ACP and 45 AR shooter.

Dave

 

[cfullgraf]

Smith & Wesson made a series of .45 ACP revolvers as a matter of fact. These were the Model 1950 Army and the Model 1950 & Model 1955 Target. The Model 1950 was a modernized M1917, and the Model 1950 and Model 1955 Target were N-Framed models with target sights. Not sure what the Model number is with the new Modelnumbering system. May be Model 25 but not too sure.

Bob Wright

S&W went to the two digit model numbers in the late fifties.

The S&W Model 25-2 was first produced in the early 1960's and they were chambered in 45 ACP. S&W also still marked the barrel with Model 1955 and maybe some other year numbers.

The predominant 45 Colt version was a Model 25-5.

There were other dash numbers (engineering changes) produced through the production run of the Model 25's but I am not sure of the production numbers or the dates off the top of my head. This run of Model 25's ended in 1991 or so.

S&W currently offers a 45 Colt Model 25 in their Classic line.

 

[PapaG]

Why is it whenever .45 revolvers get talked about someone asks about Auto Rim? Like, what is the obsession with Auto Rim? Sure, you get positive extraction with the rim, but I've seen 9mm revolvers without moon clips have no issue ejecting the empty brass from the cylinder.

My guess is that people are largely unaware of stuff like .45 Schofield and .45 Cowboy Spl.

I shoot AR a lot in my 625 when speedy loading is not an issue. Brass is available from Starline. Obsession, no. Useful, yes. Moon clips can be a pain to load and unload without a mooner/demooner.

 

[TTv2]

Alright, makes sense why some would be interested, but if I wanted a .45 ACP revolver I'd rather shoot .45 ACP and if I wanted to buy brass from Starline they make the Cowboy Special. Respected Youtuber FortuneCookie45LC trimmed some Cowboy Spl brass down and got them to run in his Blackhawk, so if the same can be done in other .45 ACP revolvers, that's how I would go.

Would allow the trimmed Cowboy Spl brass to also be used in .45 Colt revolvers as the rim is the same.

 

[BobWright]

S&W went to the two digit model numbers in the late fifties.
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Yeah, kind of a recent thing. I'll get used to the system eventually. In my day we knew them by name only, as the .38/44 Heavy Duty or .38/44 Outdoorsman.

Bob Wright

 

[Old Stumpy]

"Why not?" So I cut the old .45 Colt cases to ACP length, and using ACP dies (and .45 Colt shell holder) and loading data, loaded up some "shorts."

Thin the rims a bit, use the .45 Colt resizing die instead, and use .454" bullets (unsized from some .452" molds) and you would have created .455 Colt / Webley Mark I cartridges.

 

[gotboostvr]

Alright, makes sense why some would be interested, but if I wanted a .45 ACP revolver I'd rather shoot .45 ACP and if I wanted to buy brass from Starline they make the Cowboy Special. Respected Youtuber FortuneCookie45LC trimmed some Cowboy Spl brass down and got them to run in his Blackhawk, so if the same can be done in other .45 ACP revolvers, that's how I would go.

Would allow the trimmed Cowboy Spl brass to also be used in .45 Colt revolvers as the rim is the same.

45 Cowboy brass will only run in a 45LC. It's kind of like 45LC Special. The rim is too thin to run in a 45acp cylinder.

It let's you utilize 45acp load data and salvage 45LC brass with split necks.

 

[TTv2]

45 Cowboy brass will only run in a 45LC. It's kind of like 45LC Special. The rim is too thin to run in a 45acp cylinder.

FortuneCookie was using the .45 ACP cylinder and had to trim the Cowboy Spl. brass down to fit, but he got it to work in the Blackhawk.

Can't say if it will work in other .45 ACP revolvers, but I suspect they're worth trying if one also owns .45 Colt revolvers.