Ruger Blackhawks

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The originals used the tradition Colt-type action with "safety", half cock and full-cock hammer positions,. Early ones often had plum-colored loading gates-Ruger not quite being clear on the blueing process and forcing cones tha seemed to be threaded-or at least rough enough to produce much barrel leading. The were Strong. The later,"Three Screws" retained the original action but were often rough with weird BD gaps-or none at all. and general roughness. a few people learned that you really didn't set the hammer down on a loaded chamber and were killed or injured inconsequence so the 1973 New Model action came along in consequence .
A nice, safe load-all-six action that sometimes Had Problems. The factory some times installed short Loading gate springs that allowed the gate hang partially open and bc-gap was occasionally Absent. Forcing cones were still sometimes rough. People whined because they no longer had the original Colt action.
In the 1970s, I had a 357 with the ejector length barrel. At the same time, the loading manuals listed balls-to-the-walls loads which I cheerfully used to evaporate running jackrabbits in west- central Texas. By then everybody had learned to produce very light trigger pulls either via aftermarket springs or simply de-tensioning the existing factory trigger-return mouse trap spring and well set up revolvers were massively easy to shoot accurately.

The current New Model Blackhawks- at least the distributor specials are a step above the older ones. Metal Work and finish are superior, barrel and forcing cone ( with the possible exception of the .45 colts) are ideal and both mechanical and practical accuracy is on a par with the best of the dedicated target pistols I25y62518.jpg
This is a NMBH that is Much Better than the original Flat Top it commemorates. The sight is a nice steel Micro just like the original. The fiit, finish, metal work are Flawless(Jeeze, I hate that Internet description) and with the instant trigger job that everybody invented right after the NMBH emerged, it is easier to shoot accurately than most dedicate target pistols
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With original.44 Special level loads it should last forever and there are number of alternatives that will not strain the platform at all. Lets hope that the current trend toward Plasticification bipasses the Blackhawk.
 
One of these days I'll pull the trigger on a 5.5" SS 45 convertible Bisley large frame as soon as Ruger starts making them as I don't believe they do currently.

The last 4 3/4" SS 357 I had possessed a Phenomenal trigger. It was under 2lbs with the spring "detensioned". I kept it hooked on as that's just a little too light for me.
 
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I have several, from an original 3 screw Super, to a 1976 "200 year" stainless 4 3/4 357, a 4 3/4 45 convertible a 4 3/4 357/9mm and a 44 spec flat top. None of mine have or have had problems. The stainless took more "breakin" than others. Oh yeah, a 6 1/2" 22/22mag is in there somewhere. My fave of the bunch is the stainless 357 which, when my eyes were much younger, produced several 5" 100 yard groups. The 44 special, along with a 624 Smith and an original Bulldog are more fun than any of the others. Every one of my Rugers are tight, accurate and show no workmanship errors, something I can't say about some Smiths made at the same time (70s)..One deer with the Super, one with the 45 Colt, one with the stainless 357. Now, I need scopes and won't put one on a handgun.
 
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I like the SBH w dragoon frame.
Had a 3 screw .357 when I was a kid. Hated that small grip.
No likey Bisleys.
Like the looks of the 4 5/8" guns.
But think if I get another, it'll be a stainless 5.5" SBH and have a Dragoon frame swapped in.
Have always run my .44 mag full out.
Arthritis says that has to stop.
Might back em off or just shoot Specials, I dunno.
Buddy has one, will try before buy.
But dang if that Talo case colored 7.5" doesn't look sweet.

I had a pre warning NM that was rough to look at and shot exceptionally (after spring swap).
The new warnings underneath the bbl are tolerable IMHO.

Will not have a NM with that crap slapped on the side. But that's just me.
 
I have several, from an original 3 screw Super, to a 1976 "200 year" stainless 4 3/4 357, a 4 3/4 45 convertible a 4 3/4 357/9mm and a 44 spec flat top. None of mine have or have had problems. The stainless took more "breakin" than others. Oh yeah, a 6 1/2" 22/22mag is in there somewhere. My fave of the bunch is the stainless 357 which, when my eyes were much younger, produced several 5" 100 yard groups. The 44 special, along with a 624 Smith and an original Bulldog are more fun than any of the others. Every one of my Rugers are tight, accurate and show no workmanship errors, something I can't say about some Smiths made at the same time (70s)..One deer with the Super, one with the 45 Colt, one with the stainless 357. Now, I need scopes and won't put one on a handgun.

You don't have to scope em. They make a base that replaces the rear sight, and you can mount a small reflex sight (like Burris Fast Fire).
:)
 
Anybody like the slotted pins for making a NM look older ?
My deer hunting spot aint that great, I don't have the luxury to mess with handgunning deer these days.
I still wonder if a short .44 mag backed off might not be a good all around trail rig.
LGS had a minty 4 5/8" NM .357 w black plastic grips (I like the looks of them actually)..........but it was owned by a goof and I didn't want the bad joojoo.
;)
 
For me, the. 357 Blackhawk is my Run for the Hills gun. Tough, accurate, eats anything I feed it, and the .357 will put a thumping on most anything I will run into. Factor in mine is a convertible and now it reliably digests any weight and bullet profile of the most common center fire cartridge around.
 
Early ones often had plum-colored loading gates-Ruger not quite being clear on the blueing process

Actually, it was not the bluing process, it was the steel alloy being used. You can read about this in Ruger and his Guns by R. L. Wilson, page 77 and 78.

The steel being used for Ruger's Investment Cast parts has silicon added to help the molten metal fill the molds better. It was the silicon in the steel that was causing the blued parts to turn purple or 'plum'. Once Ruger figured this out the amount of silica in the alloy was reduced. There was still enough to help with filling the molds, but the problem of the blued parts turning purple went away.

If you look carefully at the loading gate on this Three Screw 357 Magnum Blackhawk, you will see the loading gate has a slight purplish hue. This photo was taken outdoors in subdued lighting.

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Indoors under harsher light, the purple color shows up more.

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Anyway, I love all my Three Screws. Left to right, 44 Mag Flat Top from 1958, its loading gate has a bit of plum; the 357 with the plum colored loading gate, from 1962, 357 Mag Flat Top from 1962, Single Six from 1963, and two more Single Sixes, one with target sights and one without. Sorry, I don't have any data on when they shipped.

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Anybody like the slotted pins for making a NM look older ?

Huh? You're going to have to fill me in on that one. Slotting the heads of the pins on a New Model so they look like screws? That's a new one on me. Which side do you slot? Rugers had the screw heads on the right side, Colts have them on the left side

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Anybody like the slotted pins for making a NM look older ?
My deer hunting spot aint that great, I don't have the luxury to mess with handgunning deer these days.
I still wonder if a short .44 mag backed off might not be a good all around trail rig.
LGS had a minty 4 5/8" NM .357 w black plastic grips (I like the looks of them actually)..........but it was owned by a goof and I didn't want the bad joojoo.
;)
I didn't know about the el-fako slotted pins but like them already!
 
Pops was in the RCA years ago, had a fair number of OM's.
He's since gone blingy and has a few NM in stainless, and put Dragoon frames on at least 3.
Older and tired eyed, I think he wants me to fit at least one (oversized grip frame).
 
I'm gonna see if a certain shop has a redpad #1A still in the rack this week.
If not I might have to get a NM .44 mag............like the case colored SBH (Talo I think) but might go stainless 5.5".
Heck I dunno. Too many choices.
I just don't shoot much anymore, hunt a few days and that's about it. I hit my club range and check zero and I get bored.
 
I'm gonna see if a certain shop has a redpad #1A still in the rack this week.
If not I might have to get a NM .44 mag............like the case colored SBH (Talo I think) but might go stainless 5.5".
Heck I dunno. Too many choices.
I just don't shoot much anymore, hunt a few days and that's about it. I hit my club range and check zero and I get bored.
TALO SBH- very pretty and shoots just like it should
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/talo-turnbull-super-blackhawk.844613/#post-10988556
 
I sold my minty '72 three screw SBH a yr or so ago.
Had a beater duplicate serial number OM way back, looked like hell and was a GREAT shooter. I took groundhogs at 50 yards w WW 210gr Silvertips.......no big deal. I was an idiot and should have kept it.
Two NM too, and one a pre warning that shot almost as good as that old D series.
I got into Smith 629's for carry and hunting for a while, now (ashamed to admit)...........I don't have any .44 mag handguns.

I have tinnitus and took some Alleve which really kicked that into high gear.
Magnum anything and I'm kinda steering away.
Maybe if I had some electronic ear pro for hunting.
Wearing plugs the last 6 or 7 yrs on dove hunts. Always on the ranges.
I work in a loud factory and wonder if earpro there for 8hrs a day has my hearing shifted, so stuff, even normal, bothers me more (from exclusion during half my waking hours).

I dunno

Want another .44 mag, ideally three of them........SBH, 629 and DE Mk7
But may not have any.

My last OM lit my wrist up on the range in a couple cylnders, using 180's. But work tenderizes me, plus there's arthritis.
Buddy got some .44 Special Blackhawk, shorty...........loves it.
Maybe I need to give that a whirl.
 
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I wonder why Ruger won't correct this problem. A New Vaquero with which I parted ways and a Flat Top like the one pictured here, that I still own, both had this problem. Easy enough to correct, wonder why they don't correct the problem at the factory?

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Since I put some cold blue on that, Ive been careful to open and close the gate only when the locking mechanism is in line with the cylinder slot. This seems to work.

WRONGO! The faint line is starting to be visible outside.
 
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The first handgun that I purchased on my 21st birthday was a New Model Ruger Blackhawk .357/9mm convertible. It went elsewhere some years ago, but I can't remember a time when I haven't had a Blackhawk of some configuration.

The present one is Stainless in .45 Colt.
 
This is my favorite NMBH: .45 Colt in stainless with a .45 ACP cylinder that has been trimmed to allow the use of .45 AR. It has a 5.5" barrel, the throats, which originally were way too tight, have been reamed, and the forcing cone recut. It is very accurate.

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