Ruger, get your d*** act together!

[jski]

I sent back my .30 Carbine Blackhawk and received a replacement. But looks like this hogleg goes back to the factory for yet another replacement.

Got this puppy to the range, put in 6 stiff loads, put all 6 down range, then went to eject the spent cases. And wouldn't you know it, the ejector rod doesn't line up with the chambers in the cylinder. Instead of the ejector rod going down dead center in each chamber, it hits the edge of the chambers and stops there. An obvious manufacturing flaw.

Now, how in the h*** did this ever make it out of the shop.

BTW, I'd love to keep this puppy. Those 6 rounds I put down range were in a tight 3" group at 30 yrds. Dammit, Ruger!

 

[Gunnerboy]

Uhhh once you open the loading gate the cylinder has play in it to allow it to hit dead center... At least every other blackhawk ive shot in the last 10yrs has

 

[CraigC]

That's how New Models operate, with a few exceptions. Was the first one an Old Model (pre-1973)?

 

[jski]

The ejector rod is hitting the edge of every chamber. There's NO way it'll ever center up over the chambers. Not without sawing and welding it into some unrecoverable blob.

I even showed it to my LGS gunsmith who just shook his head and handed it back.

 

[CraigC]

If you stop at the audible "click", you've gone too far. You have to hold the cylinder with your fingers between the clicks. Rugers have been that way for 43yrs.

 

[Dog Soldier]

That is strange. It seems the cylinder would be out of time on each chamber? I like the BH .30 Carb. I had one custom built on a Pre-Warning .45 frame.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I'm not a mod but I will suggest you watch your language even though there is a filter. This is THR after all.

 

[jski]

CraigC,

The rod makes it about an 1/8" into the chamber - following your advice. It simply rides the wall of chamber along the pointed end of the rod till it gets to the straight part of the ejector rod. Then stops.

BTW, there's ZERO play in the cylinder. Gate open or not.

 

[VoodooMountain]

I sold my only Blackhawks a couple years ago but if memory serves if you are able to load 6 rounds, fire them without incident , then I'm not sure what you are describing is even possible unless the ejector rod is bent.

 

[jski]

The alignment of the ejector rod relative to the chambers is totally unrelated to putting rounds in the chambers and sending them down range.

 

[VoodooMountain]

Again, going from memory, but is it possible the barrel is canted?

 

[ericuda]

Do you have a picture. Isn't the ejedtor rod housing screwed into the barrel. If you remove the cylinder does the ejector rod function properly.

 

[jski]

The best I can do with a phone camera.

 

[RX-79G]

CraigC,

The rod makes it about an 1/8" into the chamber - following your advice. It simply rides the wall of chamber along the pointed end of the rod till it gets to the straight part of the ejector rod. Then stops.

BTW, there's ZERO play in the cylinder. Gate open or not.

He isn't talking about the cylinder being loose. The "play" is that there is nothing that causes the chambers to be held in alignment with the ejector's position. The manual says you have to align it manually.

So everyone is struggling to understand what the problem is. Some are assuming that you mean the cylinder isn't turning to the right spot and staying there (which it isn't supposed to do). The other possibilities are that the rod is not parallel to the chambers and bore, or that the rod is either too close to the center of the cylinder base pin and dragging on the left side of the chamber, or too far out from the base pin, and is dragging on the right side of the chamber.

Looking at the chamber from the back, with it manually centered on the ejector, where does the rod hit in that chamber? Top, left, bottom, right?

 

[jski]

Guys, I had the previous Blackhawk for 11 yrs. I well aware that you need to manually align the chamber with the rod. But, when this is done, the rod hits the chamber's edge. The rod should align dead center with the chamber ... manually. But it doesn't.

Check the pic. You can see the rod hitting the edge of the chamber.

 

[ericuda]

Searching the ruger forums I found one with similiar issue. They Removed cylinder and reinstalled and it worked. Doesn't make sense and he never really figured the issue out.

 

[jski]

I already pulled the cylinder to remove the sent cases. Nothing changed. Didn't expect it to.

 

[RX-79G]

So it is hitting the edge of the chamber closest to the cylinder base pivot pin.

I imagine the little .30 holes make rod alignment more critical than when you have .357 holes.


If you remove the cylinder and run the ejector all the way back, does it look like it remains parallel to the bore?

 

[Plastikosmd]

Looks like it wasn't spaced far enough away from frame when attached. Smaller hole as noted above.

A smaller ejector rod or significantly tapered one may work if u chose not to send it back.

I had some gun that I had to do that with....I think it was an old single six. I was young and thought all new guns needed tweaking!
Now, though , I would send it back (again for you) keep us up to date

 

[bannockburn]

jski

Sorry to hear about the problem with your new Blackhawk. Please keep us in the loop with how everything turns out.

 

[styles]

That's how new models work. Is this a prank thread?

 

[tkroenlein]

It's hitting the inside edge of the cylinder, for those who aren't understanding the issue.

jski, I'd be interested to see if your Blackhawk's ejector rod has the same "range of motion" as mine (45LC). As you can see in these pics, the "flop" in the rod is limited by the frame hole, which allows for quite a bit of movement. I wonder if perhaps your ejector rod housing is thicker where it sits in the frame and doesn't allow so much movement?

 

[Salmoneye]

The rod should align dead center with the chamber ... manually. But it doesn't.

The rod will never align with the center of the chambers in .30 Carbine, or even .357...The diameter is simply too small...

The rod is tapered for a reason, and your rod appears to not have the tapered side long enough to eject your cases...

Remove your rod, take pics, and send them to Ruger...

 

[Salmoneye]

tkroenlein's picture shows the ejector rod used on .45 Colt, and .44 Mag...

No beveled side...

My SBH uses the same rod...

My .357 BH has the beveled side rod...I'll try and get a pic...

I believe the current rods have one long flat instead of the two...This one is from 1976:

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

That's how new models work. Is this a prank thread?

No.

He is referring to the fact that unlike the old Three Screw Blackhawks, with a New Model the chambers do not line up with the loading gate when the cylinder ratchet clicks into place. You have to manually rotate the cylinder slightly to line up the chambers with the loading gate. I have known that since I bought my first New Model in 1975.

Apparently the OP is having a problem because the narrow 30 caliber chambers will not line up at all with the ejector rod.