Ruger GSR .223/5.56

[splithoof]

Looks like Ruger is now offering it in .223/5.56, stainless, blue, and in two barrel lengths. May get one as a companion for our other two. Will be interesting to see how this one sells.

 

[ClickClickD'oh]

Will be interesting to see how this one sells.

Ruger proprietary magazines... Not well at all is my guess.

 

[chicharrones]

I think I'd like it much more if it had a polymer stock (to save weight) in some sort of camo or wood replica finish and if it took AR or even Mini-14 magazines.

The mags are full size .308 mags with inserts installed for .223.
http://accurate-mag.com/magazines/
http://accurate-mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/223cal.jpg
http://www.shootingtimes.com/wp-con...56/ruger_gunsite_scout_rifle_556_magazine.jpg

 

[greyling22]

it's the rifle no one was clamoring for

 

[chicharrones]

Now that I think about it, I'd probably like it a whole lot more in 7.62x39. With Mini-30 mags.

 

[HOOfan_1]

So I assume this was the new product that they were giving away in a contest

 

[wojownik]

This rifle is what I was looking for, except for the MSRP (too high by a couple of hundred IMHO), and the proprietary mags (at $40-$70 each).

I'd say Ruger isn't expecting this to be a game changer either - rather than downsizing the action for the .223 round (and allowing stanag magazines), they stuck as much as possible to the .308 build.

 

[armoredman]

Again with the magazine issue. At least they could have made it take their own Mini-14 magazines. That's just insulting the customer. Scrap the 5.56mm an go with something cool, like 300 Blackout, 6.5 Grendel, throw caution to the wind and make it in 8mm Mauser, for crying out loud!

 

[splithoof]

If it is destined to be a commercial failure, due to the magazine issue, it might be an investment for down the road. I don't know what the projected production figures are, but if there is only a limited run due to poor initial sales it may only last a season or two. That might make it a collectors item eventually. It can sit on the shelf next to the 700 Etron-X.

 

[chicharrones]

That might make it a collectors item eventually.

Quite possible. Especially those weird magazines.

 

[200Apples]

greyling22

it's the rifle no one was clamoring for

Hahaha!

Exactly.

wojownik

...rather than downsizing the action for the .223 round...

Yes. I agree. After handling and shooting a CZ 527, the M77 action is total overkill when chambered in .223/5.56. Chambered thusly, the M77, even in a carbine length, seems like it would be a pig.

Dumb move, Ruger, if you're listening. Should have taken the Hawkeye Compact in .308 and offered DBM bottom metal, a ghost ring and a tapped upper for a forward-mounted telescope...

amoredman

Scrap the 5.56mm an go with something cool, like 300 Blackout, 6.5 Grendel, throw caution to the wind and make it in 8mm Mauser, for crying out loud!

Hahaha... well said, sir.

 

[sappyg]

it might be an investment for down the road.

IDK but I doubt these will be any more desirable in 20 years than they are likely to be now. Maybe a Ruger collector would have to have one but only LNIB.

I never warmed up to the GSR but they must have a following to warrant this 'new' model though very little effort was made to produce it.

 

[M1key]

Now that I think about it, I'd probably like it a whole lot more in 7.62x39. With Mini-30 mags.

Now yer talkin'

M

 

[praharin]

What would stop someone from using an AICS 223 magazine? Seems like a really bad move, since those are already available. Or does it? It's not easy to get a double stack magazine in a bolt action receiver. The Mossberg MVP is a good example of what needs to be done.

In any case, given the weight I think this one is a loser. But people will buy it, for sure

 

[MIL-DOT]

Looks like a hefty gun for a little 'ol .223, and only bolt action, at that.
I surely don't plan on ditching my CZ 527 in favor of this one (by the way, the CZ's are also OK'd by the manufacturer to fire 5.56.)
I'll say it again, Ruger needs to pull their heads out of their arses and put out the Mini-14, with the new heavier barrel, maybe Parkerized with a wood stock, and most especially, make it compatible with AR15 magazines !!!!
Had they done this years ago, the Mini would likely be considerably more popular today than it is.

 

[cat_IT_guy]

I sure like the idea of it, but it seems that Ruger in a rare mistake, may have executed it poorly. I think the original GSR is a really cool looking gun. I already have a bolt .308 and it doesnt get shot much, so Im not really interested in another. Oh, its a .223? Awesome. Right up until I hear the part about the mags and the action not being scaled down. Oh well. Plenty of other nice bolt .223 options out there.

 

[Willie Sutton]

A Poodle-Scout <sigh>...

Just when I had figured that Ruger had totally screwed up the Scout Rifle concept and couldn't do worse, they prove me wrong.

I'm waiting now for the Luftscout (the air rifle version).



Willie

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[ROAshooter]

once again the fools at ruger have issed a rifle with a magazine that no one likes....are they working in a vacumn?
now we have TWO GSR...that would have been much better package with a five round blind magazine with a stripper clip capability....another ruger not to buy....

 

[Mosin Bubba]

I don't get the point of the magazine on this gun. No one is going to be stocking up on those mags at $50 a pop, and with a bolt action, you aren't going to need a ton of mags anyway. It seems to me that a flush-fitting Mini 14 style mag would have been a much better solution.

Regardless, I don't foresee a lot of people buying this gun. If I really want a scout rifle and am going to drop a thousand bucks on it, I'm definitely getting the model in 308.

 

[Walkalong]

If it used AR mags, and wasn't a grand, it would be interesting.

 

[sirgilligan]

I like that it is specified to be 5.56 NATO.
However, if the magazine is the same as the .308 that is unfortunate.

The MRSP is $1099.00.

I do like that it is a 1:8 twist.

I already bought me a 5.56 bolt rifle and if this one would have been on the market last year I still would have went with the CZ 527 Varmint with 1:9 twist.

I have heard the CZ 527 Carbine is going to have 1:9 twist (instead of the 1:12) and that would make a handy and versatile rifle indeed. It may just be a rumor though.

 

[tubeshooter]

I like to see them trying something new, I have to say that.

I like the iron sights, the proprietary mags not so much. But then again I'm a blind mag kind of guy anyway.



The price seems high for what it is. But again, good to see them trying something. They'll drum up a ton of feedback from threads very much like this, and they may get other ideas and/or bring something back that the general public has been wanting for awhile. I see it as a good thing, even if not exactly my own personal cup of tea (this time).

 

[armoredman]

Yes, sirgilligan, all new .223 rifles in the CZ lineup will be 1-9 twist, and should be marked that way.

Back to this...thing... I am sure there are going to be some very happy people owning them. I won't be one, though.

 

[akv3g4n]

I have to admit that I was pretty happy to hear that they were offering the GSR in 5.56 (as I mentioned in the other thread) and committed to getting one in the next year until I saw that they didn't scale the action or mags down for the smaller round. It's actually heavier than the .308 version. Really? I understand that they are trying to save money on production costs but that is just stupid. If I'm already going to spend more than the rifle is worth to me at ~$800 retail, they could have at least scaled down the action and made appropriately sized magazines, even if they are proprietary.

Unless there's a gen 2 where they address those issues, I think I'll grab an MVP.

 

[Downeast]

I have heard the CZ 527 Carbine is going to have 1:9 twist (instead of the 1:12) and that would make a handy and versatile rifle indeed. It may just be a rumor though.

I just got a new CZ 527 Carbine in .223 a couple weeks ago and it is 1:9 twist