TEXMEX
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MY wife is having a problem shooting well with her S&W snubbie. Thinks the trigger pull is too heavy. Anyone actually test the pull weight on a Ruger LCR? She wants one if the triggers are signifricantly lighter than S&W.
Ruger lcr: Anyone test trigger pull weight?
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FIRST THING IS BUY THAT WOMAN A NEW DRESS AND JEWLERY! Don't let her go fer Gawds sake!
Well you can buy a digital pull guage for under $100. Hire a gunsmith to tell you what the pull weight is, or thank your lucky stars your wife is not a flaming liberal like mine is!
Take your wife down to the gun store, let her try em out, buy the one she wants. Take her to dinner, and thank your lucky stars you married an angle, not a commie!
Well you can buy a digital pull guage for under $100. Hire a gunsmith to tell you what the pull weight is, or thank your lucky stars your wife is not a flaming liberal like mine is!
Take your wife down to the gun store, let her try em out, buy the one she wants. Take her to dinner, and thank your lucky stars you married an angle, not a commie!
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when i was at my FFL last month, we were comparing a new J-frame to a new LCR. the trigger pull of the LCR was significantly smoother and easier to pull back to the release point. the LCR has the lightest out of the box snubby i have ever felt...i've carried just about every model of J-frame before settling on the 642 years ago.
it won't compare to a tuned Colt D-frame, but then a tuned J-frame can't either. the LCR's trigger had a bit of grit in it, but it's improved trigger geometry just results in a better trigger pull
it won't compare to a tuned Colt D-frame, but then a tuned J-frame can't either. the LCR's trigger had a bit of grit in it, but it's improved trigger geometry just results in a better trigger pull
The Lone Haranguer
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A fish scale can give at least a ballpark figure. (I've never fired one myself.)
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Magnumite
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Mine has about 250 rounds through it. I just measured it with a garden variety fish scale and a correctly shaped pull rod. I am getting 10.5 to 11 pound pulls to cycle the action.
TEXMEX
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10.5 pounds! That's still a pretty hard pull. Her other pistol is a KAHR CW-9 with a real smooth 6 pound DA-only pull. She shoots it a lot better but says it's handle is a mite too big for an easy draw from her small purse gun-pocket.
Liberal wives: I used to have one myself. Traded her in (after 5 no-fun years) on a younger sexy blonde that rides a V-Twin & carries! Never been sorry.
Liberal wives: I used to have one myself. Traded her in (after 5 no-fun years) on a younger sexy blonde that rides a V-Twin & carries! Never been sorry.
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Reducing the weight of the trigger pull usually involves using lighter springs, and in a small revolver this is asking for misfires. When Ruger designed the LCR they relocated the hammer/trigger pivot points to increase the trigger's leverage. This leverage makes the pull feel lighter, and is possible because a single-action mode doesn't have to be part of the picture.
Since leverage, not spring weight is the larger part of the issue, weighing the pull won't tell you much. Take the lady to a store and let her try the trigger pull on various models.
Since leverage, not spring weight is the larger part of the issue, weighing the pull won't tell you much. Take the lady to a store and let her try the trigger pull on various models.
one advantage of the CW series is that the frame is polymer. cut it down to the next size mag length and buy shorter mags for it
Magnumite
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Not many revolvers get much below 10 pound DA pulls. Those I know of are typically competition or knowledgably massaged guns. Reliability from weak hammer fall becomes an issue if the pull is too light.
The small frame revolvers have historically had very heavy pulls due to the geometry of the lockwork in the small packages. This pull weight and feel in the LCR has been acknowledged as a breakthrough. Old Fuff hit on this. Also, if she is placing her finger too high on the trigger, that will result in less leverage and more effort required to pull the trigger.
I agree with Old Fuff, take her out and have her try some samples. The LCR pull will lighten slightly with use.
The small frame revolvers have historically had very heavy pulls due to the geometry of the lockwork in the small packages. This pull weight and feel in the LCR has been acknowledged as a breakthrough. Old Fuff hit on this. Also, if she is placing her finger too high on the trigger, that will result in less leverage and more effort required to pull the trigger.
I agree with Old Fuff, take her out and have her try some samples. The LCR pull will lighten slightly with use.
TEXMEX
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9mm says: one advantage of the CW series is that the frame is polymer. cut it down to the next size mag length and buy shorter mags for it
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Actually, I carry a KAHR P9 Covert, which has the longer barrel with shorter grip exactly like you suggest turning the CW-9 into. I've thought of doing what you mentioned, but hesitate to do it for concerns over reduced resale price and maybe making a mistake and ruining the grip.
I really like my Covert and have a Crimson Trace laser on it that works great. It fits very well in my pocket and after years of pocket carry never has anyone ID'd it. Maybe I'll cut my wife's grip down regardless of my concerns? The shorter grip makes a big difference in concealment.
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Actually, I carry a KAHR P9 Covert, which has the longer barrel with shorter grip exactly like you suggest turning the CW-9 into. I've thought of doing what you mentioned, but hesitate to do it for concerns over reduced resale price and maybe making a mistake and ruining the grip.
I really like my Covert and have a Crimson Trace laser on it that works great. It fits very well in my pocket and after years of pocket carry never has anyone ID'd it. Maybe I'll cut my wife's grip down regardless of my concerns? The shorter grip makes a big difference in concealment.
Five of Clubs
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I'm not kidding here, I would trade guns with your wife (assuming she likes your P9 Covert) and carry hers for a while. If she continues to like it, then get yourself a new CCW piece down the road. BUT DON'T SELL THE SNUBBIE! Ask me how I know this is a bad idea.
Magnumite
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I had a '50's produced Model 36 at one time. Traded it for another pistol. I regretted it, as you said, Five of Clubs. I saw the LCR in the show case, asked to see it, bought it and now its a keeper.
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you married her, man. lol. perhaps you should've been more picky?
Bought my wife the S&W 642 airlight and the only problem she has is recoil. Bruised her little hands. She loves my 99 pt Taurus and my springfields 1911. I'm thinking now of getting her the S&W Model 60. I figure the 3" barrel and model type itself will reduce the recoil if I use 38's instead of .357.
Of course this suggestion will set off some of our more "tactical gunfighter" members, but buy a box of .38 Special mid-range 148 grain full-wadcutter cartridges and have your wife try them in her 642. This light load will make a mean hole, and penetrate far enough without going too far.
A 3" model 36 would make an excellent choice for several reasons, but consider buying an older model that's chambered in .38 Special rather then .357 Magnum. It would likely cost less, you wouldn't have to keep cleaning lead or fouling out of the longer chambers. Also if recoil hurts her hand it's unlikely she'll be interested in shooting Magnum rounds. Rubber rather then wood stocks might help too.
A 3" model 36 would make an excellent choice for several reasons, but consider buying an older model that's chambered in .38 Special rather then .357 Magnum. It would likely cost less, you wouldn't have to keep cleaning lead or fouling out of the longer chambers. Also if recoil hurts her hand it's unlikely she'll be interested in shooting Magnum rounds. Rubber rather then wood stocks might help too.
Guillermo
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On one hand I love reading threads about women and their guns. It makes me happy.
Reading about guys that married women that they do not share core values with, on the other hand, makes me sad.
My current wife owns 3 handguns and 2 long arms and is mostly libertarian. Sadly she does not carry so I cannot offer you her perspective to the original premise
Old Fuff is 100% right about the leverage of the LCR. Polishing up the Smith's action can make a big difference. Good luck.
Reading about guys that married women that they do not share core values with, on the other hand, makes me sad.
My current wife owns 3 handguns and 2 long arms and is mostly libertarian. Sadly she does not carry so I cannot offer you her perspective to the original premise
Old Fuff is 100% right about the leverage of the LCR. Polishing up the Smith's action can make a big difference. Good luck.
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