Ruger PC carbine

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I saw this gun on YouTube and it looks kinda neet to me. 9mm carbine with two mag wells for it. I'd put the mag well that takes Glock mags on it. I just think it would be a fun shooter in an inexpensive caliber. Anyone have experience with one they'd like to share? https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/specSheets/19122.html
 
I have the 40 S&W version because I have always felt the 9mm was too under powered, plus I already have a Ruger 40 which uses the same magazines as the carbine so I have interchangeability. I like it. Haven't shot it that much (less than 200 rounds) but it is a fun gun to shoot and is good (in my estimation) for 100 yds.
 
Steel Horse Rider said:
I have the 40 S&W version because I have always felt the 9mm was too under powered, plus I already have a Ruger 40 which uses the same magazines as the carbine so I have interchangeability. I like it. Haven't shot it that much (less than 200 rounds) but it is a fun gun to shoot and is good (in my estimation) for 100 yds.
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I didn't know they made a .40 version! I like the idea of the 9mm cause it's the least expensive handgun round though.
 
the recoil is a bit more than I expected, but - that is fine. 9mm is cheap and it works good, fun to shoot steel targets with it. the recoil to me, in my limited experience feels similar to .223, so - as a practice training carbine I like it.
 
Fun gun. They are popular in TX and NY for matches that allow in the major competitions. Anecdotally, they seem to run better than the 9 mm AR pattern types - but this is a small sample. They have an advantage of avoiding AR type bans if you don't get threaded barrels, so reasonable SD home long arms. Glock mags are the way to go.

Eventually, the antigunners will come for the Minj-14s, the Rugers, the new Henrys, they've had a blind spot for them in many AWB bills, but not all. Hopefully, Clarence will get off the yacht and lead Scotus to actually getting rid of AWBs. Not holding my breath.
 
film495 said:
the recoil is a bit more than I expected
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Not sure if different buffer weight options are available for Ruger PC9 but for AR based PCC, there are plenty of buffer weight options from H1-H3 to adjustable weight and even magnetic delayed blowback to dampen recoil and keep front sight steady on target for fast follow up shots - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...have-a-couple-questions.916274/#post-12564278

Appalachiannative said:
I didn't know they made a .40 version! I like the idea of the 9mm cause it's the least expensive handgun round though.
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And keep in mind that it's not "puny" 9mm compared to 40S&W as you add around 150 to 200 fps to muzzle velocities approaching .357 Mag velocities, very applicable for defensive shooting. ;)

Another benefit to AR based PCCs is use of 22LR CMMG conversion bolt or dedicated 22LR upper. Last I checked, 22LR is running around $3 per 50 compared to $9 for 9mm - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-shipped-pricing.902560/page-11#post-12491199
 
Had one for 3 years now. my granddaughter and I use it for steel challenge. put the glock adapter in it bought a bunch of cheap glock mags. never had any issues with it. and it will eat almost any ammo. Even works fine with real light loaded 124 gr coated bullets.
 
Buy it, buy it. You won't regret the purchase.
Mine's a tack driver; consistent hits to the 100yd line without too much ado. [I'm using a dot, not a scope or irons.] It has consistently eaten all the random ammo that I've gotten along the Covid Years: All weights and all types (from FMJ to HPs in various forms). To just call it a range toy is doing it an injustice. Best sales pitch: After shooting mine a buncha times, one of my friends bought one. Now we compete at distance. Friendly rivalry...
 
Fun to shoot steel with. Recoil is more than you would expect because of the blowback design. I have the regular rifle looking one with a Romeo 5 on top. It has been very reliable for me so far.
 
Fun to shoot and the takedown feature is nice.
Even more so if you get the Mag-Pul stock upgrade.
I have a cheap red dot on mine and it gets about 3 to 4 moa at 100yds with any ammo, a little better with my handloaded XTP's.
Thats an AR-style brass catcher in the pic, rigged to fit. Works well enough. 30rd Glock mag works well too. :cool:

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I just purchased one recently and can say I'm not impressed and wished I'd passed on purchasing it. There are things I don't like about it such as the bolt handle and having to unscrew it to remove the bolt for cleaning. I'd much prefer the Henry format as far as the handle is concerned. As far accuracy, it's a 2 MOA rifle. I can better that by quite a bit with a pistol caliber lever actions. Velocity gains are 100-200 fps over a handgun. I've tried both HS-6 and CFE Pistol. HS-6 gave higher velocity. Recoil with the PC Carbine is surprising and similar to an AR.
 
It's fun, reliable, and accurate. I put the Glock magazine well in and even the large capacity magazines work well.. Red Dot on mine also. The break down feature is a big plus.
 

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"Hey guys, have you heard about this band called The Beatles? They're pretty good."

Just giving you a hard time. :p The new model PC-9 is a great PCC. Plenty accurate for the task, reliable, and easy to maintain. The open sights are very good and optics are a breeze to install.
Appalachiannative said:
I didn't know they made a .40 version! I like the idea of the 9mm cause it's the least expensive handgun round though.
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They did for only a short time. If you find one for sale, expect to pay $1100-$1400 for it. Assuming they know what they have. If they don't know what they have and price it like a PC-9, buy it from them and don't correct their mistake.
 
PapaG said:
Was going to buy one along with a Security Nine but our dictator governor rammed through an Assault Weapon ban that made both unavailable.
Illinois sucks rotten eggs.
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I believe we can still buy one as long as it has a conventional stock and non-threaded barrel. But many dealers are ignorant of that are just unwilling to chance it as the law Pritzer rammed through allows the state to add banned firearms at will.
 
Hugger-4641 said:
Fun to shoot and the takedown feature is nice.
Even more so if you get the Mag-Pul stock upgrade.
I have a cheap red dot on mine and it gets about 3 to 4 moa at 100yds with any ammo, a little better with my handloaded XTP's.
Thats an AR-style brass catcher in the pic, rigged to fit. Works well enough. 30rd Glock mag works well too. :cool:

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can you explain your butt cuff/shellholder? are those 9mms stacked in the slots?
 
I've the older, non-takedown version; real 9mm carbine fanboi. Yeah, they bump a little more than you might expect, but they're cheap to feed, and can be fired on lots of ranges that forbid 'real' rifle calibers.
Not keen on the aperture sight on the barrel, and reputedly zero can be lost with the optic on the receiver, and the gun taken down. Which probably explains why the peep sight is on the barrel.
All that said, they seem to have a good reputation, and the interchangeability of magazines is pure genius.
Moon
 
halfmoonclip said:
I've the older, non-takedown version; real 9mm carbine fanboi. Yeah, they bump a little more than you might expect, but they're cheap to feed, and can be fired on lots of ranges that forbid 'real' rifle calibers.
Not keen on the aperture sight on the barrel, and reputedly zero can be lost with the optic on the receiver, and the gun taken down. Which probably explains why the peep sight is on the barrel.
All that said, they seem to have a good reputation, and the interchangeability of magazines is pure genius.
Moon
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What made me like the looks of it is I've shot a real deal full size fixed stock MP5. I fired it both semi and full auto and felt like I could write my name with it almost. I don't want to go through the NFA stuff cause the full auto was fun but not really practical. I haven't seen a semi auto full sized fixed stock mp5 clone made by a company I respect. All I've seen is the more modern adjusting stock ones made over seas. I know this gun sure ain't no MP5 design but it just looks interesting. I also used to have a hi point carbine. Worked fine except when it didn't (wandering zero) and was so just so dang heavy
 
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Crosshair said:
"Hey guys, have you heard about this band called The Beatles? They're pretty good."

Just giving you a hard time. :p The new model PC-9 is a great PCC. Plenty accurate for the task, reliable, and easy to maintain. The open sights are very good and optics are a breeze to install.

They did for only a short time. If you find one for sale, expect to pay $1100-$1400 for it. Assuming they know what they have. If they don't know what they have and price it like a PC-9, buy it from them and don't correct their mistake.
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I mean what I really really would like in my fantasy carbine would be a 10mm. a long with a lifetime ammo component supply and progressive press lol
 
1KPerDay said:
can you explain your butt cuff/shellholder? are those 9mms stacked in the slots?
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Yes, that's actually a spare rifle cartridge sleeve that holds 2 9mm rds nicely in each loop. 20230417_202841.jpg

So that's 18rds in the sleeve, plus, on the other side of the stock, I've got another 30rd mag and two 17rd mags under the sleeve. So, when I grab this rifle and head out with it, I've got over 100rds going with me. And no, those mags under the sleeve do not interfere with shooting or handling it.:cool:
 
Okay, let's back up a step. The Ruger is no MP5 (I had the chance to shoot a real MP5, full auto, many years ago; about as much fun as you can have with your clothes on). So you know, you can have your own MP5 for maybe $25K
If you want something a little more MP5, have a look at a Scorpion.
The Ruger will work, too, for less money.
Have fun.
Moon
 
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